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"Neuroscience giveth and now neuroscience taketh away."
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Thanks for sharing this. I read the article. I'm not knowledgeable enough about addictions to offer anything in the way of an intelligent comment. But it's interesting. I do think one always has to keep in mind that what we consider to be fact today may well end up (rightly or wrongly) being discredited tomorrow.
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[QUOTE=Lefty Seven;6430555]"Neuroscience giveth and now neuroscience taketh away."
I have never understood the disease model. Some people have addiction in their genes. It is the behavior that needs to be controlled. Something must "feel" better than the"drug". __________________ "I get knocked down, but I get up again..." Bipolar 1 |
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Correction: The proper biblical translation of "Neuroscience gave and neuroscience took away" is likely "Neuroscience hath giveth and neuroscience hath taketh away." Science correspondents should spend more time reading the bible. Phone culture.
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I will admit I am torn here. I do AA and have been sober for 6 years. I struggle with the disease model- I believe I was biologically susceptible to addiction because of my father along with bipolar. I believe that it was more than nature- my environment and abuse pushed me towards addiction to alcohol for self medicating and escaping reality. I believe healthcare should cover addiction treatment because it is a malady that breaks down families and ruins so many lives. In AA literature there is one section that talks about alcoholics having an allergy to alcohol. That one drink triggers a desire that can leave us powerless over how much we drink, when to stop and what happens. This is where the 12 step principle comes in about a group of people understanding you can help you overcome the addiction. So in one respect I see the idea of it being disease-like but I have never heard of a 12 step program absolving someone of their responsibility because of addiction. It talks about being powerless over the substance but not that you cant be accountable for what you do or did while drinking or doing drugs. In fact if the author of the article wanted to they could read more about the steps and find the part where we make amends. But again, I wonder- video game and sex addiction are diseases too if I say alcoholism is so I dont know.
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hi lefty,
interesting article. I read some of the comments they were interesting as well. Thank you for posting this. It is nice to think of my drinking problem as a bad habit. bizi __________________ 150mg of lamictal 2x a day haldol 5mg 2x a day 1mg of cogentin 2x a day klonipin , 1mg at night, 4-5 peri-colace for chronic constipation multi vit,, vit c, at noon, tumeric, caffeine at noon PRN Remeron 15mg at night, zyprexa10mg under tongue, requip2mg. |
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