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Old 09-30-2016, 04:22 PM #1
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I've been called evil many times. To be honest I've always found the definition of evil to be subjective. I know the religion I was raised in would call me evil and unredeemable. They would say the absence of love and empathy for my fellow humans is wrong. And they would say because I've no shame, guilt, or sorrow for my deeds that I shouldn't be forgiven for said deeds. I've wondered if there is any truth to their claims. For when i actually attempt and succed at being socially acceptable, they still say I am evil purely for the absence of emotions that I can not obtain.

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I don't see how it's wrong to lack emotions, in and of itself that is not wrong.

What makes someone good or evil is their choices. Not inborn personality traits that they did not ask for.
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Well... the Skeezyks is an atheist. I accept the explanation for the existence of life on earth that is provided by the theory of evolution. So for me, the whole question of good & evil, in a religious sense, is mute. On the other hand, clearly there need to be some rules. Otherwise life would simply be mayhem. In some places, we can see what that can be like.

My personal opinion is that one can have shame, guilt & /or sorrow because one has not lived up to one's own expectations. However, what other people think is irrelevant. It's simply people, for their own benefit, trying to impose their thinking on someone else. There's plenty of people out there who are more than happy to do that if you let them. The Skeezyks personally has no time for it. I don't know if that makes sense. But these are my thoughts with regard to your post.
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Well... the Skeezyks is an atheist. I accept the explanation for the existence of life on earth that is provided by the theory of evolution. So for me, the whole question of good & evil, in a religious sense, is mute. On the other hand, clearly there need to be some rules. Otherwise life would simply be mayhem. In some places, we can see what that can be like.

My personal opinion is that one can have shame, guilt & /or sorrow because one has not lived up to one's own expectations. However, what other people think is irrelevant. It's simply people, for their own benefit, trying to impose their thinking on someone else. There's plenty of people out there who are more than happy to do that if you let them. The Skeezyks personally has no time for it. I don't know if that makes sense. But these are my thoughts with regard to your post.
Just curious, but why do you refer to yourself in 3rd person?
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I've been called evil many times. To be honest I've always found the definition of evil to be subjective. I know the religion I was raised in would call me evil and unredeemable. They would say the absence of love and empathy for my fellow humans is wrong. And they would say because I've no shame, guilt, or sorrow for my deeds that I shouldn't be forgiven for said deeds. I've wondered if there is any truth to their claims. For when i actually attempt and succed at being socially acceptable, they still say I am evil purely for the absence of emotions that I can not obtain.

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The people who've told you this sound very much evil.
Anyone who condemns another person and is emotionally bullying (which they seem) are also evil. Abusers are evil. People that inflict pain on others are evil. Imho hunters who like to kill animals for sport are evil.
Gangs who torment someone innocent are evil. The Government is evil, censorship is evil.
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I've been called evil many times. To be honest I've always found the definition of evil to be subjective. I know the religion I was raised in would call me evil and unredeemable. They would say the absence of love and empathy for my fellow humans is wrong. And they would say because I've no shame, guilt, or sorrow for my deeds that I shouldn't be forgiven for said deeds. I've wondered if there is any truth to their claims. For when i actually attempt and succed at being socially acceptable, they still say I am evil purely for the absence of emotions that I can not obtain.



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I don't think you're evil at all. I think those people who called you evil are horrible people. You can't help it you have a psychological disorder. It's not your fault. You are responsible for your actions but you aren't responsible for your psychological disorder. You deserve love and kindness just like any other human you aren't a monster. My fiancé is aspd and he has such a beautiful mind. He helps people without gaining anything from with out the ability to feel empathy. He wouldn't feel guilty if he didn't help them. He does more for people than people that can experience empathy. He has done some bad things in his life that he doesn't feel bad about but I believe everyone can be redeemed. Just because you all have this disorder doesn't make you bad people. You might of made bad decisions but your inability to feel empathy or guilt and society condemning you couldn't of made it easy to make good decisions. If you want a friend and someone to talk to message me
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I've been called evil many times. To be honest I've always found the definition of evil to be subjective. I know the religion I was raised in would call me evil and unredeemable. They would say the absence of love and empathy for my fellow humans is wrong. And they would say because I've no shame, guilt, or sorrow for my deeds that I shouldn't be forgiven for said deeds. I've wondered if there is any truth to their claims. For when i actually attempt and succed at being socially acceptable, they still say I am evil purely for the absence of emotions that I can not obtain.



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I think society is wrong for calling you evil, it's not your fault. You have a disorder. People ***** about how aspds make wrong decisions, but they are so quick to condemn them without even knowing them maybe if they had more love, acceptance, and understanding it'd be easier for them to make good decisions. I feel for all you aspds you deserve love and kindness just like any other human you aren't monsters
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so since i genuinely Just Dont Get Anything about typical sense of morality, i've gone thru a few logic puzzles with myself about good and evil.

so, what do humans need? food, shelter, the works. affection. a sense of purpose. to get in the way of these things, that seems "bad"/evil. to benefit these things, that seems "good".

if you put someone under the illusion that you are benefitting them while really not doing so, what is that? if you are providing a happiness, is that not a good because you're also taking advantage of them?

that being said i do think its true that good/evil apply to actions and not people--people can be anyone they want, and select any series of decisions they want. but doing things that hurt or inconvenience people is typically a negative. (no judgement, of course.)
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I think some people are just mad because they know that they cannot control you via. emotional manipulation.
Evil to people is just stuff that they do not agree with or like.

Evil is not an important word, its irrelevant and people use the term Evil to control people.

Those are my thoughts.

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In philosophy, moral responsibility is the status of morally deserving praise, blame, reward, or punishment for an act or omission, in accordance with one's moral obligations.[1][2] Deciding what (if anything) counts as "morally obligatory" is a principal concern of ethics.

Philosophers refer to people who have moral responsibility for an action as moral agents. Agents have the capability to reflect upon their situation, to form intentions about how they will act, and then to carry out that action. The notion of free will has become an important issue in the debate on whether individuals are ever morally responsible for their actions and, if so, in what sense. Incompatibilists regard determinism as at odds with free will, whereas compatibilists think the two can coexist. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_responsibility
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Some of the debate hangs on the correct explanation of the behavior of psychopaths. Psychopaths are often intelligent and calculating, yet they are also impulsive and pay as little regard for their own long-term interests as they do for that of other people. They can be very emotional, yet they also seem to lack some emotional capacities. In particular, it is still an open question to what extent they comprehend the wrongness of their actions, and can be said to have a conscience. If their moral understanding is extremely limited—for example an ability to list the kinds of actions that would be classed as morally wrong, but no ability to empathize with those who suffer—then there is still philosophical work to be done in deciding what this implies for moral responsibility, punishment or treatment. Another characterization of psychopaths is that they are simply people with deeply flawed characters and no use for morality. This characterization is probably closer to media portrayals of psychopaths than clinical reality, but it still raises philosophical issues. In particular, we can ask, if a person has a bad character, and lacks any interest in or feeling for the welfare of others, then he may not be able to behave well. How can we blame someone for doing what is in his nature? This is an issue for moral theory generally, and arises especially for virtue theory. It is of particular practical consequence when it comes to judging psychopaths, if this account of their behavior matches any real psychopaths. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/m...llResForSymBeh
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