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Old 04-21-2009, 07:47 PM #11
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Thanks to all you caring souls who responded to my pain. I still struggle. I struggle between wanting to share with my therapist as a couple of you have recommended I do. But, this is hard for me because there is a big part of me that does NOT want to stop. I know it is because I have been getting away with it for a while now. In fact, I got caught and went to court and stopped for a couple of decades in the past, but since it started again, it's become an addiction that I actually enjoy and feel I "need" as a function of the poor economy and my struggle with finances. Scratch that. It's not true. I don't "need" it. That's just something I tell myself to justify the acts. Actually, it makes me feel good to have the stuff and then I feel bad about myself as a human being. My boyfriend knows and says I must stop. I know he's right. I stopped telling him what I have taken when it ceased being cute. Now I feel lonely with my secret, but equally thrilled when I can save a little money on something. I don't steal expensive things either. Usually food and cosmetics... the type of stores I frequent, and get pissed about the prices and how they add up. I like the feeling that at least I have gotten one item for free.
I don't know where this confession will take me, but thank you all for your empathy and compassion.

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Sweetie, sorry I was responding to something roxyanne asked.......but can pm you if you like!! Good. You are on the right path........you will discuss it with your T when you are ready. Maybe if you radically accept it, the consequences as well, you will be more prepared to talk about it at a time that suits. Your post is not a confession, you are not asking for absolution, you don't need to......more that you are seeking unconditional support in your process.......and you have it. We are here........
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[quote=DocJohn;965022]Welcome to a safe place to talk about antisocial personality disorder:


Hello,
My almost-16 year old son shows signs of APD. He has been hopitalized numerous times since he was 7, hurting animals, children, me, his siblings.
He recently had residential treatment ( 1 year) and has been out for a year... The problem is that the doctors don't seem to want to diagnose APD, they are only at Conduct Disorder at this point. Even as a young child he figured out how to behave for a few days of initial examination in these hospitals, and they would send him home saying " we just don't see the aggression, and we can't always just go on your word!"
I am so frustrated!! He knows how to sweet talk his way out of treatment- as if he does nothing wrong, and my 8 and 3 year old son's are in danger. He is in treatment now( under observation for a few days after threatening to harm me and his brothers) yet, they are sending him home due to him not acting out in that hospital!!!!
Is there any more specific place he can go? He is my son, but he is a danger to my other small boys and the police and hospitals feel that he has to attack and harm the boys again before they can help- a threat is not enough and I cannot remove him from my home, even if he is a teenager- they prefer to risk him killing my 3 year old to get even with me trying to hospitalize him again, but failing. He thinks he is untouchable, and nothing he does can have consequences--no hospital can hold him, because he's too smart and cunning-- that's what he has proven.
I live in Indiana, and am at my wits end. If he was an only child, keeping him at home and outpatient therapy would be tolerable, because it would only be my safety I'd worry about, but there are small children involved and my husband ( his stepdad) is ready to move the little one's away to protect them because my son ALWAYS returns to the house. My son's father has the same symptoms of APD, only he was never diagnosed. We are divorced over his cheating and violent temper.
Any advice? Get a better doctor? don't teenagers with the disorder pose a threat if they are violent when they choose? I am open to a personal email too, because I will probably lose my family and job over this (calling off work for his behaviors and husband moving the kids away from me- because my son will be my responsability for another 2 years!)

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Anyway a hidden camera system can be hooked up and shown to a therapist? Also i think lack of remorse has to be proven before a pdoc can dx someone as apd. I wish you and your family well.
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well, Blacksheepxx, the thing of it is, if you could sit down and realize that you are only driving prices even further higher, you could most likely stop.....WHY? because thats the approach we take when a compulsive shoplifter acknowledges and feels bad, you are conciencious about this and the reason and excuse you give is that 'the economy is bad" and they charge too much.....point is that the more people steal, the more shoppers have to pay. Theres a class they give much like a drivers restitution class that helps give knowledge to those who CARE...and you would benefit i beleive because you obviously do care!
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Living with someone with APD in my opinion like living with someone on a merry-go-round. I'm Bipolar so I'm pretty much in tune with my moods and don't live in denial about them. APD people seem to have NO idea of the consequences of their actions of how it effects other people. Their capacity to show love and kindness is especially directed to children and the elderly. Mostly hopeless people although sometimes they will even verbalize their disdain for them, their actions of compassion and kindness are mostly hollow and uncaring but they hide it so well. Otherwise they can be some of the most manipulative people you will ever meet and trusting them becomes impossible at times. The will tell 5 lies and then 5 truths and get so upset at you if you question their intentions. My personal experience is that the majority of them where violated some way as a child and with learned behavior probably lied to so much themselves that becomes their norm. It can be so disturbing because one minute they are expressing genuine love and affection, then suddenly change. APD is in the cluster B personality disorder classification. I would suggest that you read about all of them because 2 or more can be exhibited but maybe not always at the same time. I was married for 30 yrs to a women with Borderline PD. She is 54 now and is finally understanding the damage that she did, not only to me but our children as well. That's really where it can become so dishearting because they blame everyone else and feel like everyone owes them something. If you can get them to a GOOD therapist, they have a chance.
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I'm glad I found somewhere I can express myself without being judged or called crazy.
I realize now why I don't like to be around other people, I woke up this morning with a major hang-over and I don't drink, it is from someone who goes around my house spraying chemicals at my windows and doors and I'm afraid to call the police cause by the time I make it outside to catch them they are gone and I don't want the police to say I'm "Crazy" no one is doing it, but the signs of it happening are there if only they would take the time or care to see them. I stay away from others because I do not know exactly who they are and if they can hurt me like this I do not want to be anywhere near them.
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Logic, you mentioned in your post that you do not like to be around people and that you stay away from others. You might want to read the traits of APD, I don't believe that not wanting to be around people is antisocial personality disorder.
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Logic, you mentioned in your post that you do not like to be around people and that you stay away from others. You might want to read the traits of APD, I don't believe that not wanting to be around people is antisocial personality disorder.
You're very correct Many people are confused by the antisocial title
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docs tried to say I'm borderline so why do I have this boiling seething undercurrent of hate for borderlines now? Or for that being put on me now? I resent it. I don't resent the ptsd or depression they said- I agree totally but this one I find repulsive and to not fit at all. I think that they said it only they didn't care enough to look properly cos I see public health docs- not getting paid by me so they don't give a damn. Some days I feel like I'm normal, some I feel like or am so sure in fact of being anti-social. I think what makes it confusing is that it's hard to find real accurate info on this subject- many people disagree and have opposing views, also the internet isn't best for info since any douche can make a website and pretend to know what they are talking about- you don't know if it's proper site or not unless you really look in depth. Some days I don't want anyone to find out if I really am anti-social cos I don't know what they'll do :/ And seriously I have really nasty thoughts about borderlines now I can't say here or I'll get kicked and this place is useful, been kicked from too many sites- they say you can be honest and say what you need to say but then you do and they kick you- what's up with that? :/
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