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Old 08-12-2019, 10:35 PM   #1
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Default My focus has been getting better while not on ADHD medication

I'm on Vyvanse right now though so I could be thinking this the wrong way. What I want is creativity. Vyvanse can kill that in exchange for focus. I'm not in school right now so I don't really need to focus. Yknow what I mean?

But Vyvanse helps with my chronic fatigue syndrome and hypersomnia. I still sleep 12 hours a night with Vyvanse. Without, I never get out of bed (Only to eat, use washroom). Don't even have the energy to shower, brush my teeth, etc.

I believe having creativity will allow me to find my own way in life.

My focus could be better because I'm mentally stable and more awake about reality. Should I tell my doctor this? Should I ask for modafinil instead? Does modafinil work as good as Vyvanse?

I don't want to lower the Vyvanse from 50mg because it's better for wakefulness.
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I take adderall xr and have for nearly 14 years. I find that I am more creative because when I have ideas I am able to execute them or come up with ways to make them work. An example would be this sweet 16 I am planning for my daughter (which is this saturday). She has a semi/rocknroll theme/80's them so I came up with the idea of building centerpieces out of glued, stacked clear cassette tapes and putting fairy lights in the center of them. They are really cool. I never would have been able to get from point a to point b without being on medication. Have you ever tried anything other than vyvanse? My husband has narcolepsy and adhd and he takes provigil but it really only helps him with the tiredness it doesnt do much for his adhd.
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I might ask for Dexedrine so I can take 15mg (50mg Vyvanse) 3-4 times a day for a total of 45-60mg Dexedrine a day.

It's because my doctor doesn't want to give Dexedrine at the end of the day while on Vyvanse because he doesn't want to prescribe both stimulants at the same time.

I would be able to skip doses if I want and have refills longer than a month.

But idk.. Maybe I just need to find other ways for creativity while I'm awake on the Vyvanse rather than not being able to even get out of bed when off the Vyvanse.

If you're still creative while on Adderall then there must be something else wrong with my brain.. Antipsychotics.. weed..

The thing is, I have really really intense dreams. I was looking at all of the visual hallucinations around my room when I woke up this morning. It was very intense but they're just harmless hypnotic hallucinations that go away once I wake up.

I have problems getting to sleep and problems waking up. It's like my brain never transitions to wakefulness or sleep without a chemical to do that...
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You must know about narcolepsy (Cuz your husband has it) so unrelated question..

I sleep 11-12 hours a night. Do you think it would be sustainable if I set my alarm for 8 hours of sleep every night? Would I feel better, forcing the dream hallucinations into my awake time in the form of making me feel better and having more creativity?
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I take V for huge weeks with 100 hour work stretches, but I donít have ADHD. I do have OCD and panic disorder/ C-ptsd, and take ambien XL 12.5 to sleep. Adderall XL is too much power for me; I can feel my heart beat fast. My pcp suggested Provigil, but I could not find anyone who had taken it or knew about it. For some reason Vyvanse makes me focus with quality energy and quells panic attacks so I can give 110 percent to work. Is that a paradoxical effect or normal? I asked my doctor if it meant I had ADD and she said definitely not. This group of drugs is new to me and I donít understand them.


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I take adderall xr and have for nearly 14 years. I find that I am more creative because when I have ideas I am able to execute them or come up with ways to make them work. An example would be this sweet 16 I am planning for my daughter (which is this saturday). She has a semi/rocknroll theme/80's them so I came up with the idea of building centerpieces out of glued, stacked clear cassette tapes and putting fairy lights in the center of them. They are really cool. I never would have been able to get from point a to point b without being on medication. Have you ever tried anything other than vyvanse? My husband has narcolepsy and adhd and he takes provigil but it really only helps him with the tiredness it doesnt do much for his adhd.
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Do you have narcolepsy or depression on top of chronic fatigue? I am so sorry you struggle with Chronic Fatigue. My good friend is an Internal medicine doctor, and she really thinks some kind of childhood strep or Epstein - Barr pulls the trigger on CFS. Iím interested that Vyvanse makes a real difference. Do you take 50 mg once a day? It clearly still isnít good enough for your quality of life. If you try Provigil, I would love to hear how you feel. Do you drink coffee with Vyvanse? Do you add pedialyte or Gatorade?

QUOTE=Desoxyn;6604575]I'm on Vyvanse right now though so I could be thinking this the wrong way. What I want is creativity. Vyvanse can kill that in exchange for focus. I'm not in school right now so I don't really need to focus. Yknow what I mean?

But Vyvanse helps with my chronic fatigue syndrome and hypersomnia. I still sleep 12 hours a night with Vyvanse. Without, I never get out of bed (Only to eat, use washroom). Don't even have the energy to shower, brush my teeth, etc.

I believe having creativity will allow me to find my own way in life.

My focus could be better because I'm mentally stable and more awake about reality. Should I tell my doctor this? Should I ask for modafinil instead? Does modafinil work as good as Vyvanse?

I don't want to lower the Vyvanse from 50mg because it's better for wakefulness.[/QUOTE]
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Random last reply about setting alarm for 8 hours: would your doctor give you Ambien XR Nd you could add 3 mg Melatonin? You have to take your Vyvanse super early ( I take mine about 4 am). Then though, you can go to bed at 9 and sleep 6 hours, at which time Ambien wears off. You can almost construct circadian rhythms . Do
You have a cat or a dog who needs you to get outside in the sunshine or an alarm clock that mirrors the light quality of daybreak?
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Hey @Desoxyn
I suggest a sleep study regardless of narcolepsy or anything else. I had one done and each person has their own windows of sleep that they need and a sleep study is able to measure your brain waves and interpret them. For me, when we are awake we have more alpha waves and when we are in deep sleep we have more delta waves. Well, in certain phases of deep sleep my alpha waves were still trucking right along which meant that my brain tended to be more active even at rest. It turns out that I am a person who does best on 5-6 hours of sleep. It is a myth that we all need 8 hours. Alot of us do but there are subsets of the population that need more or less. I solved my insomnia through my own sleep training because sleep meds do not jive with my alcoholism. I go to bed in the same window of time and wake up in the same window of time every day, 7 days a week all year. I go to bed between 10-12 and wake up between 4-6. I have always been an early riser and love my mornings and get a lot done. I have occasional insomnia (like tonight) but I just accept it. They say too much sleep is just as bad as too little sleep but you will not know what is going on without a study.
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I sleep 11-12 hours a night. Do you think it would be sustainable if I set my alarm for 8 hours of sleep every night? Would I feel better, forcing the dream hallucinations into my awake time in the form of making me feel better and having more creativity?
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I asked my doctor for a sleep test but he said that sleep tests are usually used if you sleep too little and not too much. To check for sleep apnea and stuff like that.

I don't wake up in the middle of the night and I sleep 12 hours.

I realized that the Vyvanse lasts around 9-10 hours and I took it at 8am two days ago and at 6am, my focus was dead and spread out.

I usually didn't notice the Vyvanse wearing off because I usually wake up at 12pm and go to bed at 12am.
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