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Default Nov 22, 2018 at 07:34 AM
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I'm venting as im annoyed with a guy who has just posted on YouTube saying he cured his AvPD.
That clown has confused social anxiety or depression as AvPD!
He has no clue that we're talking about a Personality disorder.
Personality is something that has been formed since early childhood to shape a persons belief system. He thinks you just got to do this and do that and your cured!. **** me, if it was that simple then we're not certainly not talking Avoidant Personality disorder- which puts a cross through his whole argument...
Imagine a person without AvPD if it was that simple to cure. The person would be completely lost to who they are. I'm an Avie bc that's who I am.

This Self Diagnosed idiot has simply taken the seriousness and the severity out of the disorder, watered it down, blurring what AvPD is into something those without the disorder can also identify with... then these people get on you tube and talk about "their" AvPD and how it effects them, how they cured it, what it is etc.

Even hearing someone say that have AvPD traits.... isn't the same as AvPD.

If AvPD is your core diagnoses all your responses and reactions can be drawn back to this primary personality .
If you don't have AvPD then your actions and responses aren't that of AvPD but a reaction/response, a symptom from your Primary/core diagnoses.
My diagnoses is AvPD, my actions and reactions are a direct response from AvPD. You can't have example: Bipolar and say you have AvPD bc what your calling the AvPD isn't going to be the same as someone with AvPD.

Sorry about my ranting and raving, I'm just annoyed they we always get thrown under the bus of other peoples issues and "expert" advice.

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Default Nov 22, 2018 at 12:35 PM
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People self diagnose all the time. Sometimes they're right, but sometimes they just think they know what a certain symptom feels like. It annoys me too when that happens. It confuses even more people and leads them to believe that they have that condition because they identify with what that person is describing.
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Default Nov 23, 2018 at 03:37 AM
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People self diagnose all the time. Sometimes they're right, but sometimes they just think they know what a certain symptom feels like. It annoys me too when that happens. It confuses even more people and leads them to believe that they have that condition because they identify with what that person is describing.


Problem is that you can't argue with these people bc their actual disorder or issue/s won't let them be wrong.
I can hit him with facts till the cows come home, and bc he doesn't have AvPD those facts wont mean anything to him.

...anyway.
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Default Nov 23, 2018 at 02:55 PM
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It’s not my intention to discredit a profane person’s opinion. I consider that everyone’s opinion has to be considered but which University this individual got his PhD in Psychiatrist?

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It’s not my intention to discredit a profane person’s opinion. I consider that everyone’s opinion has to be considered but which University this individual got his PhD in Psychiatrist?


He is self diagnosed.
So I guess he got his PhD from the University of Google.

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I agree that personality has been formed since early childhood to shape a person’s belief system.

It annoys me sometimes too when people confuse mild social anxiety or even very mild so called “shyness” with Avpd.. one reason I tell nobody in real life. but most of them (who I don’t avoid .. I avoid most ..) criticise me for being “shy, anxious” etc. But they are “quite shy too” (they say..) I hadn’t noticed. It’s not noticeable. And actually I don’t believe them, especially when they say that in a condescending manner.

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Default Nov 23, 2018 at 06:53 PM
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I think people would be surprised to what AvPD actually is.
AvPD is so noticeable to me bc I can recognise the little things like a signature.

Just because you can speak the language, just because you can do all the gestures if you're not born and live there, then your trying to be something your not.
Its the same with AvPD. People can say and believe they have AvPD but if it's not their primary/core diagnoses then they're only believing something their not.
Living a lie and trying to sell it to those with the actual disorder.

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I don’t know.. maybe the psychologist and the shrink misdiagnosed me for their own agenda. They couldn’t help, didn’t want to help. They really only “helped” “simple” anxiety, depression etc and people who made “significant” change on their schedule. . It is not easy to access good help in this forest..

I suspect that if you met me in real life you would think I’m avoidant. But I have no investment in that diagnosis. I don’t define myself by any diagnosis. I didn’t want any diagnosis when I went into therapy....but I was given one anyway. In some ways I’ve become less avoidant over the years, and in some ways more.

As a child I was always the most withdrawn, shy, anxious, in the class, by far.

I’m not sure if you’re saying you think I am not avoidant despite the diagnosis, if so, I’m sure that psychologist would not be happy. He was very proud of his skills and of being a good diagnostician. I think he is NPD..

And btw I don’t feel comfortable posting usually, other than hugs, but I do it anyway

At least I don’t have to spend hours shaving off my fur as I do if I venture out of my cave...

I’ve also got to know a few really good people online.. I’d almost despaired about the bears in this corner of the forest, aside from Papa Bear.. and they always always judged and misjudged me. They would certainly say I’m “too quiet”... too quiet for what? Idiots...

I have built up some sort of self esteem over the years, maybe.. so maybe that disqualifies me from being Avpd. In which case I’m very happy... I’ve defied the medics..and the abusive family of origin.

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He is self diagnosed.
So I guess he got his PhD from the University of Google.
Hahaha! And on top of it, it seems to me that he skipped 1st grade lesson about personality disorders.

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I agree that personality has been formed since early childhood to shape a person’s belief system.

It annoys me sometimes too when people confuse mild social anxiety or even very mild so called “shyness” with Avpd.. one reason I tell nobody in real life. but most of them (who I don’t avoid .. I avoid most ..) criticise me for being “shy, anxious” etc. But they are “quite shy too” (they say..) I hadn’t noticed. It’s not noticeable. And actually I don’t believe them, especially when they say that in a condescending manner.
It sounds familiar to me. Almost every person I have opened myself to tell them that I have Social phobia...they compare themselves with me and defend that they are also shy. They are different things. I guess it’s the same as saying that you are depressed when you are only sad.

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I think people would be surprised to what AvPD actually is.
AvPD is so noticeable to me bc I can recognise the little things like a signature.

Just because you can speak the language, just because you can do all the gestures if you're not born and live there, then your trying to be something your not.
Its the same with AvPD. People can say and believe they have AvPD but if it's not their primary/core diagnoses then they're only believing something their not.
Living a lie and trying to sell it to those with the actual disorder.
Unluckily, this is the outcome, misleading people who have the disorder even when I would bet it’s not their intention.
At least, they don’t have an you-tube channel. :-)

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Unluckily, this is the outcome, misleading people who have the disorder even when I would bet it’s not their intention.
At least, they don’t have an you-tube channel. :-)
I certainly would never want to be avoidant ''pd''.. I've been judged for it in real life so many times that I hardly even speak of it on here. I think it is probably one of the most misunderstood and certainly one of the least ''studied'' ''pd's''. I'm married to lovely and intelligent Papa bear who I am almost certain is an ''aspie'' - he has very little desire to socialise. So its just the two of us in our cave...he isn't judged constantly by mean strangers (and others) like I am though (irl) I did go through a phase of being ''less avoidant'' which is when I met Papa bear (so maybe the dx is wrong. who knows.) (maybe its ''just'' CPTSD

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I’m talking in general.
I wasn’t pointing out any particular person.
All I’m sure of is that more quantity of information available doesn’t mean quality at all.
Nowadays, there are many daring people who dare to talk about whatever without a basement. They public blogs, have you-tube channels, dare to contradict experts about a certain topic.
I don’t like it at all. It’s similar to those debates among journalists who dare to talk about each spotlight in a moment. They know about everything. And I wonder, hey...where is the person who studied, searched and is prepared to talk about this with any basement?
I feel very bothered when someone on TV or wherever talks about Education, my field of study, and do it as if they have experience and studies on this topic. You notice that their opinions are very partial, and lack of foundation. What it’s ok, everyone have the right to express their opinions but they do it as if the truth belong to them.

So, I understand people who have this disorder feel themselves triggered and upset when seeing this channel.

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