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Default Jan 29, 2020 at 01:21 PM
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if you're not suicidal, drug addicted, and if drug-drug interactions are OK and the psych is a-OK...now and then,t he barbiturates can be used. phenobarbital is still used, every now and then, although i hear its nasty stuff (long acting, drug-drug interactions, not the most pleasant stuff ever). there are a couple of other not as long acting barbiturates on the market, some are reasonably priced (i guess that means at least some people are taking them for sleep, anxiety, etc.) and others are specialty drugs (I guess?), so there's a crazy insane mark up, which...would make insurance coverage an issue, especially since many plans frown upon Rx sedatives, in general.

xyrem (Rx GHB) is used as part of treatment in narcolepsy...I've read 2nd hand accounts of people (I'm guessing with excellent coverage and doctors who saw potential for help...) using it in psych indications.

other than that, I have 0 guesses as to what might potentially be helpful. :-(
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Default Jan 29, 2020 at 04:53 PM
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You mentioned the wiring of your brain. I was wondering if maybe you could rewire it subconsciously. Have you tried sleep meditations? I used to have a couple I worked with. It is similar to breathing techniques, but you breathe and listen along to a guide who would lead you and there is music as well. I'm sure there are tons on YouTube.

Your brainwaves essentially end up in the hypnotic range and maybe that would help things on a subconscious level. Something to try maybe if you haven't looked into it before. I could maybe dig some links up for you if you're interested.

ETA: I came across this article with several to try. There are basic meditations, biurnal beats, meditations to induce delta wave state, hypnosis meditation. Maybe one of these options might assist.

20 Best Guided Meditations for Sleep and Insomnia
This is fantastic, thanks a million, Fern!! Blanche sent me one last week and I really liked it, but I did not know where else to find more good ones.

I am spending a lot of time meditating during these sleepless hours. Hours and hours of it, actually, every day. Just because, as Christina says, it seems like even that much must be better for my brain than being on the computer or up and around. So, will keep doing that.

Will take a look at some of these--thanks again!!

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I responded to your other thread but I want to recommend that you join a drum circle. When I was actively drumming once a week, I slept like a log. I felt 1000% better while I was drumming, about everything going on in my life.

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if you're not suicidal, drug addicted, and if drug-drug interactions are OK and the psych is a-OK...now and then,t he barbiturates can be used. phenobarbital is still used, every now and then, although i hear its nasty stuff (long acting, drug-drug interactions, not the most pleasant stuff ever). there are a couple of other not as long acting barbiturates on the market, some are reasonably priced (i guess that means at least some people are taking them for sleep, anxiety, etc.) and others are specialty drugs (I guess?), so there's a crazy insane mark up, which...would make insurance coverage an issue, especially since many plans frown upon Rx sedatives, in general.

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other than that, I have 0 guesses as to what might potentially be helpful. :-(
Thanks. So, for narcolepsy, it would be Provigil qAM and Xyrem qPM? Or something? I'll check it out. Thorazine, even if it worked, is way too expensive here. Joke, given how old it is.

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I responded to your other thread but I want to recommend that you join a drum circle. When I was actively drumming once a week, I slept like a log. I felt 1000% better while I was drumming, about everything going on in my life.

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Yep. Did a couple while in my long hospitalization. Will look around and see what's what here.

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I was out in Thorazine my first time experiencing psychosis. It made me SO snowed under yet I wouldn’t sleep. I’d just pace in my ip room! They said I was manic and psychotic. Eventually I asked to be taken off of it. It was giving me the “Thorazine shuffle” I hated it

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I was out in Thorazine my first time experiencing psychosis. It made me SO snowed under yet I wouldn’t sleep. I’d just pace in my ip room! They said I was manic and psychotic. Eventually I asked to be taken off of it. It was giving me the “Thorazine shuffle” I hated it
Sorry you had that experience, Hallie. I am pretty sure I am going to stop it. I don't think it is doing anything for me.

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