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Default Feb 23, 2020 at 02:17 PM
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For you... YouTube

And I agree with a lot of what you said. I'm a science geek and most people probably experience me as weird. I stopped caring a long time ago.

A thought about free will. I think perhaps it is still in charge, but maybe the free will of the soul or higher self trumps that of our conscious mind.
Very cute, and so true.

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Childbirth was a ten on the pain scale, but it was quick. Long endured severe emotional pain is worse IMHO.

I also think bipolar suffering is much worse than childbirth. I've had three vaginal births, one of which was without pain meds. I actually enjoyed the med-free birth to the other two- fewer complications and there is a euphoric high you get with a natural birth. That's not to say that I wasn't in pain, but my body over road it with endorphins. Bipolar pain is much much worse for me. Maybe because it is current and my births were 18, 20, and 22 years ago.

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Default Feb 23, 2020 at 02:37 PM
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That sums me up!!

Well, about that free will...Turns out that *some not all* neuroscientists believe that our "free will" is just predetermined, or preprogrammed neurons in the brain. So, these people believe that our thoughts and actions are predictable in that sense. I don't know if I fully agree with that but I'm on the fence about it; b/c if someone tells me to jump off a bridge there's no way I'm going to do that, even if I'm attached to a bungee cord.

Free-will skepticism exists thanks to those pesky determinists.
I love that song. I laughed so hard when I first heard it.

I can see that perspective on free will. If you're into the quantum nature of things and a time doesn't really exist perspective technically everything is predetermined because the past and the future are also the now. Ahhh! My brain hurts.

If you go with an outlook like that and then layer in a holographic universe perspective you can still interject free will. In that case you'd just need to know how to alter the hologram as opposed to people just Quantumly choosing paths that have already been laid out for them.l and are either 'on' or 'off'. So it would be the difference in being the creator vs. the creation.

Some schools of thought believe change and free will can only be accessed outside of space and time. This is kind of in line with the above.

Mostly I think like you I'm not willing to yeild to a defeatist predetermination attitude. I think we have a path and we mostly walk it, but we don't always have to stay in our lane.
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The pineal--I had no idea. I will have to read about that. I am very sorry about your trauma-releasing experience. That must have been very difficult for you.

I am pretty sure you and I agree on the likely connection between the spiritual and the intuitive. When I talk about some sort of "wireless" information transfer, what I mean to say, really, is that I believe in my life that my "visions" have come from a higher spiritual source and that the information contained in them has been designed to come expressly to me and from that source. That there is a purpose, even if I do not understand that purpose. That information must be transferred into my brain through some mechanism--it didn't just appear there by itself, in my view. There have been no wires connected to my brain, that I am aware of. Enough said. Just my personal world view and experience.
Ha! Yes we agree completely. I have an IT background. My observation is that technology solutions typically mimic nature. Networks are like this. Databases mimic the analytical side of the human brain and the Web mimics the intuitive side. The notion that we can download and transmit data makes complete sense.
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[QUOTE=bpcyclist;6778310]Electric--Pat Metheny, not that I can still play any of it...
—-you are playing it—in yr mind. Next you will grab that thing and make us proud.! BEST THREAD EVER. HOLY SOMETHING OR OTHER. YOU PEOPLE ROCK!!!

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