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Default Apr 28, 2020 at 09:32 PM
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Default Apr 28, 2020 at 11:38 PM
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I've told my Pdoc NO more times than I can count LOL .. So him and I would discuss what might be a better medication for me.

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Default Apr 29, 2020 at 12:18 AM
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i will always try what he asks, but I don't make promises that if I don't like it, that I won't stop it.

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Default Apr 29, 2020 at 01:45 AM
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I will usually defer to their judgement BUT with the caveat that IF I don't like it I will not continue to take it and they need something ready in case that happens.

I've had two Pdocs tell me I would take what they prescribed or they would put me inpatient(needless to say those relationships didn't last very long. I don't respond well to threats)

Several that acted like they could not have cared less what I said.

And two including, my current, who listened/s and if I say no or tell her something just isn't working for me then she says "OK let's find/try something else."

One of my first Pdocs was a very good Pdoc and I forget about it a lot but she would listen to me. I never knew how rare she was until I went through a series of bad ones. Now that I have a good one again I will hold on this time

Also it helps if you can back the no up with a thought out reason instead of just no for the sake of no. BUT if you have a good Pdoc they should listen to you either way. Good luck

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Default Apr 29, 2020 at 02:24 AM
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Sure i say no.

My first pdoc was total failure. Sorry for saying like this. She studied psychiatry, and didn't know how to treat bipolar disorder. I was in severe depression and told she won't change my meds. Changed psychiatrists.

Second one i tought was good. But due to misunderstanding, we had a conflict and she threatened me. Told if you won't wait for 3 weeks (i was without any mood stabiliser) and you'll get worse, I'll send you to inpatient. She refused to help me. So i don't want pdocs like that and also changed.

My third one thinks my generalised and social anxiety is a part of personality and won't give AD for that. Few days ago, I told her i need it because anxiety is so severe, i cant take it without anxiolytics. I understand she wants the best for me, but i wrote her a letter that I'll use for next appointment, telling more avout my anxiety. I told no doc, i need AD because i wont wait for years of psychotherapy for my issues to be solved. I need something now. And she told, ok, let's see how you do, and if the problem is so severe, I'll prescribe you an AD by next appointment.

So, to say no is healthy. You've your own opinion, pdocs should communicate with patients. Cheers
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Default Apr 29, 2020 at 06:40 AM
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I told my previous pdoc "no" on a handful of occasions and he didn't respect that. It got to the point where I gave up on saying "no" and started doing whatever I wanted, including starting/stopping certain meds, and changing doses on my own. It was bad. He was toxic. However, he left the practice and I got a new pdoc (who is my current pdoc) in the same practice. My current one *sometimes* respects my "no" answers, but not always.

I really think it depends on the pdoc, but it doesn't hurt to say "NO." You can never negotiate a situation if you don't try in the first place.
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Default Apr 29, 2020 at 01:06 PM
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I can't remember a specific example of when I've said no to my pdoc, but I am sure I have. I know that I would if I really felt strongly about it. But of course I do listen to his arguments and give them careful consideration. I do also try to acknowledge when I'm in a mental state where I need someone to make the decision for me.

I have absolutely scolded my pdoc (and even some tdocs) in the past. My pdoc can be a real wet blanket and grinch on occasion, and sometimes he's so old-fashioned that I really feel strongly that he should grow with the times. Luckily, my relationship with my psychiatrist is so strong, that we can both get away with what we say, for the most part. Especially if we're right. I never hold any grudges against him for things he's said/done. Ditto the other way around.

When it comes to saying "no", sometimes it's helpful to be prepared with reasons to back up the "no". Other times, if we don't feel up to presenting arguments (or there's fear of a strong unwelcome debate), a firm "NO!" should occasionally be enough.
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Default Apr 29, 2020 at 01:21 PM
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I said no to my pdoc last time I "saw" her. She wanted me on Invega and I just told her something like "Not trying that again, it didn't do anything to me when I was on it past summer" and then she asked about other meds. I've said no to other pdocs, especially the one at my IOP. Sometimes I flat out say No to seeing him haha.
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Default Apr 29, 2020 at 03:28 PM
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When I've seen a pdoc for the first time I state which drugs I'll never take again and why. They might disagree with one or two of my off limits drugs but I'm respectful but firm and they respect that. After all I'm the one with the acual experience of taking the drug. My choices are based on facts not fantasy.

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Default May 10, 2020 at 05:44 PM
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When I was manic last year, my pdoc gave me a choice of what to do- basically Seroquel or Zyprexa. She knows my history with zyprexa (though I doubt she read all my posts in my blog about it when manic last year) so when I chose Seroquel she shouldn't have been surprised.

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Default Jun 05, 2020 at 12:35 PM
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I've just weaned off Seroquel from 150. Sleep still okay. Next time I talk with pdoc I 'll have to mention this but that won't be for another 2 or 3 months- I don't even have any appointments scheduled at this point.

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