advertisement
Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
franz kafka
Poohbah
 
franz kafka's Avatar
franz kafka blesses the rains down in Africa
 
Member Since: Apr 2016
Location: NY
Posts: 1,168
5 yr Member
68 hugs
given
PC PoohBah!
Trig Mar 29, 2019 at 02:50 PM
  #1
On my MyChart account, my new resident pdoc put "personality disorder" for my diagnosis last week. When I asked why by email, she said it's because I have a history of self-harm and SI. What the heck? I have no personality disorder symptoms and the only times I self-harm or have SI is when I'm having a psychotic episode.

Should I request to see a new doctor? I feel so angry and misunderstood.

__________________
dx: schizoaffective bipolar type; OCD; GAD
rx: clozapine, clonazepam PRN
franz kafka is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
 
Hugs from:
Anonymous41462, Anonymous46341, Innerzone, Jedi67, MickeyCheeky, Unrigged64072835, wildflowerchild25, wiretwister, yellow_fleurs
 
Thanks for this!
MickeyCheeky

advertisement
Victoria'smom
Legendary
 
Victoria'smom's Avatar
Victoria'smom has no updates.
 
Member Since: Apr 2012
Location: Earth
Posts: 14,880 (SuperPoster!)
10 yr Member
5,415 hugs
given
PC PoohBah!
Default Mar 29, 2019 at 02:59 PM
  #2
I would start looking.

__________________
Dx:
Me- SzA
Husband- Bipolar 1
Daughter- mood disorder+


Comfortable broken and happy

"So I don't know why I'm tongue tied At the wrong time when I need this."- P!nk
My blog
Victoria'smom is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
 
Thanks for this!
MickeyCheeky
wildflowerchild25
Elder
 
wildflowerchild25's Avatar
wildflowerchild25 has no updates.
 
Member Since: Mar 2013
Location: NJ
Posts: 6,431
10 yr Member
9,545 hugs
given
PC PoohBah!
Default Mar 29, 2019 at 03:05 PM
  #3
I had the same thing happen. There’s this one program in my area that does IOP and PHP. I tried to call for an appointment last year and when I said I was suicidal and had self harmed, they said I would be doing the DBT program. I argued, saying I have already done DBT and it doesn’t help me but they said because if the self harm and suicidality they wouldn’t consider placing me anywhere else. I was so pissed off. More recently, I tried out a new pdoc and he dx’ed me as having borderline personality disorder, despite not having any other symptoms of bod. I felt insulted, especially because I am a woman. I wondered if he would have dx’ed a man as borderline. I didn’t go back to him.

I would look for a new pdoc but that’s just me.

__________________
Of course it is happening inside your head. But why on earth should that mean that it is not real?
-Albus Dumbledore

That’s life. If nothing else, that is life. It’s real. Sometimes it
f—-ing hurts. But it’s sort of all we have.
-Garden State
wildflowerchild25 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
 
Hugs from:
Anonymous41462, MickeyCheeky, yellow_fleurs
 
Thanks for this!
MickeyCheeky
MickeyCheeky
Legendary
 
MickeyCheeky's Avatar
MickeyCheeky My echo is the only voice coming back
 
Member Since: Jun 2016
Location: Italy
Posts: 11,817 (SuperPoster!)
5 yr Member
38.4k hugs
given
PC PoohBah!
Default Mar 29, 2019 at 03:10 PM
  #4
I'm so sorry you're going through all of this, franz kafka I completely understand your frustration. How is your relationship with your doctor? Are there any other things about him that you don't like? Is he being kind and understanding to you? I feel like that's the most important thing for a doctor to have for his patients. I completely agree with what Miguel'smom and wildflowerchild have already wisely said better than I ever could! I'd suggest to listen to them if you can and want! They always give such great advice! If you don't like him because you don't feel understood by him or you feel like he ins't helping too much or any other reason I believe you have every right to look for another doctor. I'm so sorry you're going through all of this! Please don't give up! Try to hang on! Remember that we're here for you if you need it! Feel free to PM me anytime! Let me know if I can do something to help you! Wish you good luck! Let us know how it goes! I'm so sorry you have to deal with all of this, franz kafka! Keep fighting! You're a warrior! I hope you'll be able to get the help you need and deserve! You deserve to get better and to feel good just like everyone else does! I hope things will get better soon for you! You deserve to get better and tyo feel good just like everyone else does! You're a strong, wonderful person! Please remember that! Keep fighting! I'm so sorry you're going through all of this! I'm sure you'll be able to get through all of this! Keep fighting! I'm so sorry, you don't deserve to suffer at all! Nobody deserve to suffer at all! Keep fighting! You can do this! You've got this!
MickeyCheeky is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
 
Thanks for this!
Jedi67
Jedi67
Veteran Member
 
Jedi67's Avatar
Jedi67 "needs of the one outweighs the needs of the many"
 
Member Since: Mar 2019
Location: Western, NY
Posts: 575
5 yr Member
1,913 hugs
given
Default Mar 29, 2019 at 03:40 PM
  #5
it wouldn't hurt to look for a second opinion on your mental health status. especially if you feel that your gut instinct is raising a red flag. also, if you seek a new pdoc, tell him about the reservations you had with other docs and that you want a fair and professional assessment all around. best of luck and hang in there, and don't let the frustration get to you! you can get thru this.
Jedi67 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Anonymous41462
Guest
Anonymous41462 has no updates. Edit
 
Posts: n/a
Default Mar 29, 2019 at 04:33 PM
  #6
I feel the personality disorders are over-diagnosed. I agree that it's usually women who get labelled borderline. I was diagnosed borderline by a psychiatrist i saw when i was off meds and truly a mess. When i'm on meds and having high mood, i am a joy to be around. All my "personality disorder" traits disappear. That's why i firmly believe that i simply have a chemical imbalance in my brain -- bipolar. My negative "personality traits" when i am having low mood are just a symptom of depression. DBT and therapy are not useful for me. You can't reason me out of hypomania or depression. It's a chemical thing.


Also, i've never injured myself as "self-harm." I've never done it for relief or perverse pleasure. I've always done it for the purpose of suicide. I think a lot of women who are difficult at the moment of assessment get labelled borderline just because men do not like them.

I'd keep looking for a more sensible doctor. If you challenge a diagnosis of borderline they'll just take it as more "proof" that you're borderline.
  Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
 
Hugs from:
yellow_fleurs
 
Thanks for this!
wildflowerchild25
yellow_fleurs
Grand Poohbah
yellow_fleurs has no updates.
 
Member Since: Jun 2018
Location: US
Posts: 1,512
5 yr Member
1,265 hugs
given
Default Mar 29, 2019 at 05:07 PM
  #7
I think sometimes doctors see the self harm history and immediately think personality disorder. I do not know if you have a personality disorder, but the self harm thing alone doesn't seem like enough criteria to diagnose one. Maybe you could ask if you meet any of the other criteria, or get another opinion?
A similar thing happened to me when I had the med reaction to Lexapro and was very agitated and started having issues with SI/self harm for the first time in my life really, and my doctor started suspecting a personality disorder. He never ended up giving me a dx though, once I improved.
wildflowerchild25 I also wondered if my doctor made that assumption it might be my personality quicker since I am female.
Just want to say I do not fault anyone who does have a personality disorder, though.
yellow_fleurs is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
franz kafka
Poohbah
 
franz kafka's Avatar
franz kafka blesses the rains down in Africa
 
Member Since: Apr 2016
Location: NY
Posts: 1,168
5 yr Member
68 hugs
given
PC PoohBah!
Default Mar 29, 2019 at 05:12 PM
  #8
My wife thinks that the resident is maybe required to do a differential diagnosis on me just for educational reasons. I'm so tired of seeing students. I think it's time to find a new, experienced doctor. The only problem is that they need to be eligible to prescribe clozapine, which is going to limit my choice.

__________________
dx: schizoaffective bipolar type; OCD; GAD
rx: clozapine, clonazepam PRN
franz kafka is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
 
Hugs from:
Anonymous41462, yellow_fleurs
 
Thanks for this!
Theroadlesstraveled
yellow_fleurs
Grand Poohbah
yellow_fleurs has no updates.
 
Member Since: Jun 2018
Location: US
Posts: 1,512
5 yr Member
1,265 hugs
given
Default Mar 29, 2019 at 05:19 PM
  #9
Quote:
Originally Posted by franz kafka View Post
My wife thinks that the resident is maybe required to do a differential diagnosis on me just for educational reasons. I'm so tired of seeing students. I think it's time to find a new, experienced doctor. The only problem is that they need to be eligible to prescribe clozapine, which is going to limit my choice.
Do you just see the resident? I saw a resident, but I would see the resident then the experienced psychiatrist would also see me in the same visit.
yellow_fleurs is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
franz kafka
Poohbah
 
franz kafka's Avatar
franz kafka blesses the rains down in Africa
 
Member Since: Apr 2016
Location: NY
Posts: 1,168
5 yr Member
68 hugs
given
PC PoohBah!
Default Mar 29, 2019 at 05:22 PM
  #10
Quote:
Originally Posted by yellow_fleurs View Post
Do you just see the resident? I saw a resident, but I would see the resident then the experienced psychiatrist would also see me in the same visit.
Yes the attending pdoc does show up for a few minutes at the end. It's weird because I talk to the resident first then she presents my case to the attending, who usually has very little to add. I don't know what he thinks of my diagnosis.

__________________
dx: schizoaffective bipolar type; OCD; GAD
rx: clozapine, clonazepam PRN
franz kafka is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
yellow_fleurs
Grand Poohbah
yellow_fleurs has no updates.
 
Member Since: Jun 2018
Location: US
Posts: 1,512
5 yr Member
1,265 hugs
given
Default Mar 29, 2019 at 05:27 PM
  #11
Oh okay, that is what it was like for me too, but because I was originally seeing the attending for a clinical trial before seeing the resident he knew me well. I think they both had to give me a diagnosis as in my online portal I would see it in there twice.
yellow_fleurs is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Unrigged64072835
Legendary
Unrigged64072835 "'Cause in my head there's a Greyhound station"
 
Member Since: Oct 2010
Location: Under the noise floor
Posts: 18,579 (SuperPoster!)
10 yr Member
11.8k hugs
given
PC PoohBah!
Default Mar 29, 2019 at 06:19 PM
  #12
Oh geez, you have to be more than suicidal/SH to have BPD. There's a whole bunch of stuff. That's ridiculous.

Yeah, definitely look for a new pdoc.
Unrigged64072835 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
franz kafka
Poohbah
 
franz kafka's Avatar
franz kafka blesses the rains down in Africa
 
Member Since: Apr 2016
Location: NY
Posts: 1,168
5 yr Member
68 hugs
given
PC PoohBah!
Default Mar 29, 2019 at 07:20 PM
  #13
I just looked through the past diagnoses that my substitute therapist (regular tdoc is on maternity leave) put down and he said "personality disorder" too! I sent him a very angry email. I don't want to see someone who misunderstands me so fundamentally. I'd rather wait for regular tdoc to come back.

Just to show how ridiculous my doctors right now are, in the past 6 months I have received the following diagnoses: schizophrenia, bipolar 1, obsession/compulsion, schizoaffective, anxiety, hallucinations, and personality disorder. They clearly have no clue what is going on!

__________________
dx: schizoaffective bipolar type; OCD; GAD
rx: clozapine, clonazepam PRN
franz kafka is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
 
Hugs from:
Anonymous41462, Anonymous46341, Innerzone
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:52 PM.
Powered by vBulletin® — Copyright © 2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.



 

My Support Forums

My Support Forums is the online community that was originally begun as the Psych Central Forums in 2001. It now runs as an independent self-help support group community for mental health, personality, and psychological issues and is overseen by a group of dedicated, caring volunteers from around the world.

 

Helplines and Lifelines

The material on this site is for informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment provided by a qualified health care provider.

Always consult your doctor or mental health professional before trying anything you read here.