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Default My pdoc seems to be having a manic episode

I don't know if I have mentioned this before but my pdoc also has bipolar disorder. He has been out of hospital the whole time I have been seeing him (many years) and is supervised by another psychiatrist in order to be able to treat patients.

I tried years ago to get another pdoc but where I live in Canada you have to give up your psychiatrist before any other pdoc will take you. So even though he doesn't know much about the newer meds (he's in his 60s and I think stopped staying up to date a long time ago), I've kept seeing him. He also has 45 minute appointments so you have a chance to talk about things. Usually he just sits there and takes notes but today he spent the whole time talking about cutting away the bad part of ourselves with a meat cleaver. He was saying that our psychotic selves are psychopaths because of our fathers and that is one thing we have in common.

I really didn't have a chance to get a word in edgewise. He said he is on the verge of a manic episode and it helped me see how I must appear to others when I am starting to go manic. Anyway I will see him again as usual in a few weeks.

Isn't this a weird story?
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Very weird. The meat cleaver part cracked me up and scared me a little at the same time. I suppose it is good to see a doctor that can really relate to what you're going through, but it strikes me as odd he kept your appointment knowing he was on the verge of mania. Its hard to get what you need if you can't get a word in.
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Hi Fern,

Yeah he repeated the part about cutting off the bad part of myself, the one with negative thoughts and anger about myself, with a meatcleaver twice. Who thinks about meatcleavers? It isn't an image that resonates with me in any positive way.

He also said he was seeing a new patient after me and that is why he cut off our meeting a few minutes early. He said he had been fooling everyone these past years that he was well when he really wasn't. I felt like he was not respecting the fact that he gets paid to provide a service for me (by the government) rather than the other way round.
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I agree that doesn't sound very respectful at all. I wonder if he will feel the same about his words when he comes down from this episode. I imagine he might feel a bit embarrassed and maybe worried he will be reported for inappropriate behavior. I know I said all kinds of ridiculous stuff when I was manic. I'm glad I wasn't out in public for the worst of it. He really should stay home for a few days and get himself under control.
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Wow just wow.....

The meat cleaver comment ? I think I would have ended the appt at that point, just for my own sanity.

Sure BPers can work in the field. Is there a way for you to let his supervisor know what happened ? If so Id definitely do it.

The guy needs time to help himself not other people while clearly in a manic state.

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Woah, awkward. I guess it's a good thing that he isn't trying to mess with you meds while in that state of mind.
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Christina,

I don't know the name of the psychiatrist he reports to. i could report him to the College of Physicians and Surgeons, but my name would go on that and he would get a copy and probably refuse to see me after that. Maybe it is simplest just to try to get another psychiatrist but the last time I did that my referral was refused because I already had one.

He said he was concerned that he hadn't really helped me all of these years because we didn't connect as people that he hid his feelings and his true self but he was confiding in me because he knew he could trust me. I am just repeating what he said.

Fern, you are right. I think he will feel a bit embarrassed when he comes down. He might get reported by another one of his patients.
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Tricky situation to be in

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tecomsin, is there a receptionist or the like, you can ask to pass on your concerns? I know this sounds rough, but really your psychiatrist may need help. Mania can be disturbing to anyone. To people with mental illness it could be dangerous. He could be more harm than good to one or more of his other patients.
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@christina and @BirdDancer, I'm also inclined to just focus on what is best for me rather than try to solve other people's problems. I have a lot of difficulties as it is and just want to make less problems in my life rather than more.

The weird thing is one of my friends suggested to me that I have allowed my son to feel free and safe to dump on me and this is what I wanted to discuss today with my pdoc. Instead we talked about my pdoc's problems. I tried to butt in a few times but he was really on a rant today. I've never seen him like this before. He usually has not much to say unless you ask him a direct question.

What I feel bad about mostly is that the government paid him a significant amount of money to tell me about his problems.
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