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Trig Jun 13, 2019 at 11:33 PM
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One would think that I would have it all together by now but I don't. I still don't understand how to stop myself when I am spiraling, even when I have identified a trigger. I don't know where PTSD ends and bipolar begins. On one hand, I don't are. I just want the triggers to stop. On the other hand, i care because somehow I think knowing will somehow make me better.

Today I visited my pdoc. I remember feeling fine. We discussed reducing latuda again after I get through this reaction to a recent trigger. Even with all of that rational thought, I have these other thought that tell me that Im worthless. I have all thoughts running through my mind. When does it end? How do you make it stop?

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Default Jun 14, 2019 at 12:00 AM
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I don’t have any answers.
I just wanted to let you know that when I was put on Latuda it caused something my pdoc called ‘reciprocal anxiety’. I was switched back to Seroquel pronto.
I wish you better luck with it.

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Default Jun 14, 2019 at 07:53 PM
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Sorry, I don't have answers either. I've got so many diagnoses, it's hard to know where one ends and the other stops. I feel like the psych diagnoses are right, though I question the ADHD. Then, I've got fibromyalgia and recently, I found out now iron-deficiency anemia (which can cause anxiety and depression). The anemia is new, developed since August 2018, when my bloodwork was fine, just a mildly low ferritin level. But as for what symptoms come from what, I give up trying to understand though I do think the bipolar and anxiety worsen the eating disorder especially when there is a lot of stress in my life.

I've never been on Latuda, but if it could be causing increased anxiety, is there something else you can try? Are you on medications for anxiety? I take Klonopin along with propranolol; Klonopin seems to help the most, but it is not 100%, and many pdocs don't like to prescribe benzos.

Are your triggers events that occur in your life or are some of them related to flashbacks from PTSD? I know sometimes I have no identifiable triggers at all for anxiety and panic which makes it all the more confusing and frustrating as later I will try to analyze it again and again, trying to remember if there could possibly have been a trigger.

Are you in therapy as well?

Don't worry, my mind runs with constant thoughts that contradict one another on top of thinking about what I need to be doing (cooking dinner, folding laundry, etc.). I feel that I am worthless most of the time. You are not alone there I wish I could make the thoughts stop, but mine are constant and jumpy and topic to topic to topic, up and down all day as I am mixed and sometimes I get manic overly happy thoughts even while having negative, depressed thinking. It makes no sense.

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Default Jun 15, 2019 at 01:05 AM
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I have so much PTSD from a wide variety of things it’s ridiculous.

My T does hypnotherapy/trance work.

By going back to X event I am able to look at the abuse from another angle. Yes I see what happened but I don’t relieve it so ...my subconscious then can process it with out all the extreme fear. It’s not a total fix ...( ptsd never just goes away ...we just have to learn to live with it ) but lessening the attacks in general will of course help you with stability and just not being constantly triggered.

The way I can tell the difference is Bipolar change / shift comes on over the course of a few days at least. PTSD just slams into me very hard .. so for me I can easily see it now..

I hope you can find some relief soon.

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Thanks for responding. Yes, I am in therapy. I see my therapist in about 2 weeks. Hopefully by then, I will be over this. I didn't think to schedule an appt this week on the day that I last saw her because I was fine that day. I'm going to get through it using the coping strategies that we've worked on. I think it is so confusing because I have this feeling that is below my normal. . . Slow thinking, tired/sleepy/heaviness. . . With temper flare-ups, anxiety. Ive also noticed that I keep cutting other people off when they are talking. I think the trauma trigger has triggered some of it, but I'm not sure of the cause for the rest of it.

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Thanks for responding. Yes, I am in therapy. I see my therapist in about 2 weeks. Hopefully by then, I will be over this. I didn't think to schedule an appt this week on the day that I last saw her because I was fine that day. I'm going to get through it using the coping strategies that we've worked on. I think it is so confusing because I have this feeling that is below my normal. . . Slow thinking, tired/sleepy/heaviness. . . With temper flare-ups, anxiety. Ive also noticed that I keep cutting other people off when they are talking. I think the trauma trigger has triggered some of it, but I'm not sure of the cause for the rest of it.


Ptsd can trigger highs and lows. I know of a few times in the years past I would get my meds tweaked or add a new one when it was actually my ptsd causing the problem which of course the Med change was unnecessary and often made things worse.

The blood pressure meds Tenex and Minipress have been helpful to lessen ptsd nightmares.. I have taken both and they helped some. But my blood pressure runs low and if I’m below 130/70 I would have to skip that night. So I finally just quit them.

I’m off psych meds now , I’m doing well but I do have a huge box of coping skills I can use if I start having trouble regardless of what’s driving it

I hope things settle down for you soon. Maybe see your T weekly for a bit until your doing better ?

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I called today and I'm scheduled to see my T on Thursday.

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