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Nice Fern. Thank you. I love that song. Its an older one. But still good. It really gets me going. I hope that I can.
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Wow! This thread has been hopping!

Everything still going well. Skipped a couple things recently because my social life was getting to feel a bit much. Tiredness-wise. A couple solid nights of sleep felt really good. Been sleeping pretty well.

My ex-bf is moving back to the area soon. A fair distance away though, especially considering no cars, so not a huge deal. Did I already mention this? Can't remember. He REALLY wants to get back together. I don't see that happening. Major trust issues aside from anything else. But I'm cool with being friends. He is not welcome in the house where I live, so there will be no visiting happening here. (And he doesn't have my address anyway.) He will be working for a religious organization, so I'm sure things are quite stricty-pants there as well. Visiting at all is a logistical challenge, transportation-wise. So I'm not overly concerned about the situation being problematic. (Also, I have my book of reasons I broke up with him. They are substantial. Also, I love my life exactly as it is already.)

Well, better finish getting ready for work. Which is still going well, though I do have days that are challenging (when I feel like I can't do anything right, but that is catastrophizing.)

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T'was a very short day! No terps available today so back I go into the pool. I think they just wanted to know if I was going to show up. I made a very good impression tho as I was the most dressed up person there. I thought you were supposed to dress nice for court?
Dressing nicely for court definitely goes for any defendent.

Wasn't it fun, in a way, to get dressed up? I find I get too comfortable in my more casual clothing and when I change this, even for just one function, I feel a bit "better."

I recall teachers emphasizing being well-dressed for school, stating everyone's behavior changes when they dress diffferently. If we feel we don't change our own behavior (how we relate to ourselves and to others), chances are good we change how others relate to us.

One of my closest friends through college was a guy who liked to wear a tie and jacket most days. He had often remarked how differently he was treated when he was in jeans, etc.

I am glad you were able to skip jury duty!
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Wow! This thread has been hopping!

Everything still going well. Skipped a couple things recently because my social life was getting to feel a bit much. Tiredness-wise. A couple solid nights of sleep felt really good. Been sleeping pretty well.

My ex-bf is moving back to the area soon. A fair distance away though, especially considering no cars, so not a huge deal. Did I already mention this? Can't remember. He REALLY wants to get back together. I don't see that happening. Major trust issues aside from anything else. But I'm cool with being friends. He is not welcome in the house where I live, so there will be no visiting happening here. (And he doesn't have my address anyway.) He will be working for a religious organization, so I'm sure things are quite stricty-pants there as well. Visiting at all is a logistical challenge, transportation-wise. So I'm not overly concerned about the situation being problematic. (Also, I have my book of reasons I broke up with him. They are substantial. Also, I love my life exactly as it is already.)

Well, better finish getting ready for work. Which is still going well, though I do have days that are challenging (when I feel like I can't do anything right, but that is catastrophizing.)

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You are doing so very well, IZ. You have moved forward in your life with tremendous courage.

I look to you, to how you have handled a very difficult situation, when I feel like there is no hope of getting things sorted out.

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After 3 bad nights from not feeling well I finally slept last night. I actually slept without waking for nearly 12 hours which is very unusual for me and then I went back to sleep for another 2 hours. I think I could sleep even more if I would let myself. Sunday night I only got 4.5 hours and I was exhausted. I can't believe I slept that much though. I slept a lot because of clozapine but usually it is broken. I never sleep straight through.

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I wish I could honestly write an inspiring post today. I could write one, yet it probably would not be honest.

Or is my mind telling me tales again?

I need to change my "vibration" and try, try again.

Catch you in awhile...

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After 3 bad nights from not feeling well I finally slept last night. I actually slept without waking for nearly 12 hours which is very unusual for me and then I went back to sleep for another 2 hours. I think I could sleep even more if I would let myself. Sunday night I only got 4.5 hours and I was exhausted. I can't believe I slept that much though. I slept a lot because of clozapine but usually it is broken. I never sleep straight through.

I feel so much better!

You have been under the weather for quite a long time now.
It is wonderful you have finally gotten some quality sleep!

Does Charlie wake you up when you sleep in?
How is Charlie doing?

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Bad night. Nightmares kept waking me up almost on the hour. Keep dissociating and going catatonic today... Just overall struggling. Not even in a talking mood. Think I spoke 3 words all morning...

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Does Charlie wake you up when you sleep in?
How is Charlie doing?

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The only time Charlie wakes me is if he runs out of food. I'm pretty good at remembering to fill their bowl before I go to sleep to prevent that.

Charlie is doing really well. He's even playing with his sister. I think he feels better than he has in a long time. I don't know why but I'll take it. Now he just needs to lose some steroid weight. He's probably 21-22 lbs right now and that's way too heavy.

Now you just need a night like I had....

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Didn't wake up until 1-something. Ugh.

I started the paperwork for housing subsidy. Basically a list of all the crap I have to gather. This always makes me nuts every year! I'm at Starbucks now- a friend bought me a latte.

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Bad night. Nightmares kept waking me up almost on the hour. Keep dissociating and going catatonic today... Just overall struggling. Not even in a talking mood. Think I spoke 3 words all morning...
(((((( childofchaos ))))))

May LOVE surround you, comfort you, lift you up!!!

I have had a similar night. Terrorizing, in fact. I have spent the day searching for the Light. It is lonely to feel lost in the dark. We are here for you.

Is there anyone you can reach out to IRL?

What happens if/when you talk?

I know that I withdraw sometimes, when I truly need to talk the most. During those times, I find that if I allow myself to talk, I also feel my feelings. Sometimes, especially after a night of nightmares, for instance, my feelings tend to frighten me. If I feel too threatened/frightened of my feelings or memories, I might then dissociate.

I try to intervene in my pattern by allowing myself to talk even though I really, really, really do not want to talk.

This is how it can go for me.

Just wondering how it goes for you?
Does talking open doors you wish would remain closed?

Don't feel like you must respond here. I am just trying to share with you and I do realize you may not feel like talking for reasons beyond our ability to fully comprehend. I don't want to encourage you to drop any defense system that is serving you well today.

Just trying to tell you that you are not alone.
We are here for you.

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May LOVE surround you, comfort you, lift you up!!!


I have had a similar night. Terrorizing, in fact. I have spent the day searching for the Light. It is lonely to feel lost in the dark. We are here for you.


Is there anyone you can reach out to IRL?


What happens if/when you talk?


I know that I withdraw sometimes, when I truly need to talk the most. During those times, I find that if I allow myself to talk, I also feel my feelings. Sometimes, especially after a night of nightmares, for instance, my feelings tend to frighten me. If I feel too threatened/frightened of my feelings or memories, I might then dissociate.


I try to intervene in my pattern by allowing myself to talk even though I really, really, really do not want to talk.


This is how it can go for me.


Just wondering how it goes for you?

Does talking open doors you wish would remain closed?


Don't feel like you must respond here. I am just trying to share with you and I do realize you may not feel like talking for reasons beyond our ability to fully comprehend. I don't want to encourage you to drop any defense system that is serving you well today.


Just trying to tell you that you are not alone.

We are here for you.
Sometimes talking can make it worse... I don't know how to explain it. It can definitely make the dissociation worse. Th main problem is I don't know what triggered this. Yesterday and the weekend were bad too but not this bad...

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I'm doing pretty well. Mood is good, sleep is good, no other symptoms. I don't have much going on in my life at the moment. Need to do some grocery shopping so I'm glad I'll be able to do that tomorrow morning. I've been using mindfulness again, it's very helpful. I feel like a lot of my life passes by in a blur, so it's nice to kind of live in the moment and be more aware of things.

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Sometimes talking can make it worse... I don't know how to explain it. It can definitely make the dissociation worse. Th main problem is I don't know what triggered this. Yesterday and the weekend were bad too but not this bad...

Thanks for the response, WC.
While talking can be very grounding for some people, in some cases, talking can make things feel more intense, more real. I think that can be additionally frightening and can stir up more dissociation.

The way out of dissociation can be quite difficult. As you have mentioned, the first step is in recognizing triggers. I know this can be very tricky.

Does anything help when you are dissociating?

I often find talking helpful. I also find it very helpful if/when someone says my name. It is also sometimes helpful to me if someone (someone close to me) simply touches my forearm or some gesture like that where I become aware of my body.

The kind of fear that sets off dissociating is fierce! In fact, we dissociate in order to escape it, I think?

Over time, and after studying under many different authors, I'd realized that there is "Fear"and there is "Love." One can overwhelm the other. When I am feeling an overwhelmig amount of fear, I try to reach out and change my "status" by listening to music, by reaching out to help others, etc. If I can get myself more in alignment with Love, it is more difficult for me to identify with the fear. I am then not so overwhelmed with fear...and the need for dissociation tends to let up.

PTSD deserves respect, in that my writing something "fruity," like I have done so above, may seem "fluffy"and not be helpful. PTSD makes some significant changes in the central nervous system, etc.

In thinking about it though, for many of us, it has taken some very hurtful (often devastating) actions (usually on the part of others) to create the wound(s) and the fear associated with PTSD/dissociation. It then makes sense to me the that the opposite, Love and Light, might offer us some healing. (?)

One of the things I try to remember to do is to make sure I am in a place, or get myself into a place, where I feel as much Love as I can muster at the time.

Sometimes, it is helpful to recall a time when we have felt Love around us. If we focus/meditate upon times like these, we might be able to recreate the feeling and the associated chemistry. I find this helpful when I am feeling lost.

If we can create or recreate a feeling of being surrounded by Love, we might be able to chase away (or to transform) some of the fear and we might be able to escape, or to lessen our need to dissociate so often, so deeply?

This may or may not be helpful to you.
It has been very helpful to me and I'd wanted to share some of my experience with you.

You are not alone.
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While talking can be very grounding for some people, in some cases, talking can make things feel more intense, more real. I think that can be additionally frightening and can stir up more dissociation.

The way out of dissociation can be quite difficult. As you have mentioned, the first step is in recognizing triggers. I know this can be very tricky.

Does anything help when you are dissociating?

I often find talking helpful. I also find it very helpful if/when someone says my name. It is also sometimes helpful to me if someone (someone close to me) simply touches my forearm or some gesture like that where I become aware of my body.

The kind of fear that sets off dissociating is fierce! In fact, we dissociate in order to escape it, I think?

Over time, and after studying under many different authors, I'd realized that there is "Fear"and there is "Love." One can overwhelm the other. When I am feeling an overwhelmig amount of fear, I try to reach out and change my "status" by listening to music, by reaching out to help others, etc. If I can get myself more in alignment with Love, it is more difficult for me to identify with the fear. I am then not so overwhelmed with fear...and the need for dissociation tends to let up.

PTSD deserves respect, in that my writing something "fruity," like I have done so above, may seem "fluffy"and not be helpful. PTSD makes some significant changes in the central nervous system, etc.

In thinking about it though, for many of us, it has taken some very hurtful (often devastating) actions (usually on the part of others) to create the wound(s) and the fear associated with PTSD/dissociation. It then makes sense to me the that the opposite, Love and Light, might offer us some healing. (?)

One of the things I try to remember to do is to make sure I am in a place, or get myself into a place, where I feel as much Love as I can muster at the time.

Sometimes, it is helpful to recall a time when we have felt Love around us. If we focus/meditate upon times like these, we might be able to recreate the feeling and the associated chemistry. I find this helpful when I am feeling lost.

If we can create or recreate a feeling of being surrounded by Love, we might be able to chase away (or to transform) some of the fear and we might be able to escape, or to lessen our need to dissociate so often, so deeply?

This may or may not be helpful to you.
It has been very helpful to me and I'd wanted to share some of my experience with you.

You are not alone.
May you feel surrounded by Love
I too try to shift my state by applying the opposite feeling. This is an approach that works well for me. It makes logical sense as well. Thanks for sharing.
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I got some work done today: I paid the phone bill; I drove to the credit union and got printouts of accounts for "The paperwork" and got the rent check; got a quick lunch then paid the rent and now Im home. Is that enough for the day? There is so much to do in the next week!!!

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I have been working on trying to change my "feelings" all day long.. I find my way and then lose it again, only to find it again, and on and on it goes.

Today has been especially painful. I have had to be dealing with my soon-to-be "ex." We have a property to remodel a bit and then to sell. He and I have been trying to make these decisions together. It has gone relatively well at times. He is testing the waters now though. I see a lot of his "activites" going on right in front of my face. It is difficult to keep my composure and to keep things headed in the right direction while trying to cope with this. I think he is more "mindless" than not. He is also arrogant about all that has happened. I think he does not realize I can see as much as I can see. He thinks I am being fooled. I am not being fooled. I am watching and keeping an eye out for myself... because it has been proven , in this case, I must do so.

I do, in fact, see him continuing his activities and watch him repeatedly continue to lie to me about both consequential and inconsequential matters. (Yet, isn't it always "consequential" if someone is chronically lying?)

I don't like the fact that I truly MUST keep an eye out when it comes to someone I have spent almost 30 years with. It seems surreal. Yet, it is true and it's best to not forget it, at least not until the big D is final and maybe longer.

It's an interesting balance to try to achieve, one between getting along with someone enough to work together and one in which one must be ready for any kind of betrayal at any moment. I do, in fact, see him continuing to carry on and lying to my face, even today... over and over again.

I have been hoping he would show even a little bit of remorse and would have enough respect for me to truly spare me, rather than going through the motions of pretending to spare me.

I am trying my best to remain amicable and to keep things on track, hoping to put an end to this fiasco as soon as is reasonably possible.

I guess I can only do my best by staying in alignment with my own values while he decides how he conducts himself. I do not want to spend my time or energy responding to his ongoing (mis)behaviors.

Thanks for reading and thanks so much for your support.

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Wild Coyote - you’ve been like superwoman in my book. You’ve conducted yourself with dignity, class and integrity amid still having to deal with him for the foreseeable future. I’m so sorry you are in this ongoing nightmare. Sending hugs and supportive vibes.
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I am having trouble remembering where things are- where I put things. If they get moved by someone else Im screwed.

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@wildcoyote good advice for everyone but "This, too, shall pass". I know that during it seems it will go on forever.

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