Road My Own, by Beth 12/28

~Christina · Dec 29, 2019 at 10:03 PM

Happy Birthday !!!

Wild Coyote · Dec 30, 2019 at 09:41 AM

I'd forgotten to wish you a Happy Birthday!

BELATED HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!
I hope you have had some FUN!!!

*Beth* · Dec 30, 2019 at 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Wander

Med weight gain is one of the cruelest of side effects. It seems like you have reached a point where you simply cannot tolerate it anymore - and rightly so. Tapering is a great idea. I am glad that the first night went well. As for exercising; can you get to a local pool? Exercising in water is much easier on our bodies overall. Just a thought. Keep us posted.

Thank you for your reply, Wander. Thank you for understanding. And your advice is excellent - I am doing pool exercise at my physical therapy place. It's an indoor salt water pool & I love it. The only issue I have that's negative is people talking to me when I'm trying to exercise...there's always a little group that hangs out in the pool to chat.

Christina suggested wearing sunglasses, which is a good way to signal to people that I'm not into chatting, but it's an indoor pool, so...I think I'm going to make myself be assertive and tell them I really need to exercise.

*Beth* · Dec 30, 2019 at 11:08 AM

Thanks for the birthday wishes!

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2nd night, so far, so good. I slept well. Of course I'm still taking a 1/2 dose. Since I haven't been on the Zyprexa too long, the withdrawal probably won't be terrible. When I get anxious (almost always late afternoon) I've taken 1mg K-pin prn. Klonopin is still a magic pill for me.

Today I see my T...I don't know whether to mention my plan to go off Zyprexa, or not. If I tell her I know she let Dr. W. know before I'm even out to my car. I'm stuck on this one.

Fuzzybear · Dec 30, 2019 at 12:06 PM

Happy belated Birthday

*Beth* · Dec 30, 2019 at 06:46 PM

I saw my therapist today & told her about the problems I'm having with Zyprexa. She's a refreshingly empathetic person. Of course, meds aren't her "thing", but we did discuss some ways I might be able to approach Dr. W. without being afraid of Dr. W. reprimanding me. My appt. with Dr. W. is on Friday, therapist right after.

Came home feeling the unusual level of generalized anxiety, so took a prn K-pin. These afternoons of low sun are murderous. I wish it would get dark already.

I made an appt. with the physical therapist for Tuesday next. I don't think the PT does jack, but the pool is nice.

*Beth* · Dec 31, 2019 at 09:59 AM

5mg. Zyprexa last night. Sleep was just slightly troublesome (insomnia). I suspect that sleep will be the most difficult part of stopping the AP. As with Seroquel, however, I don't want to take an AP just to sleep well

Someone told me that taking an AP to sleep is like burning down a house because it has ants in the kitchen.

Besides the slight sleep issue I have a tiny bit of paranoia (feel like someone inside the wall heater is watching me). The paranoia is the same degree I had when I started taking Zyprexa. Very mild, definitely annoying, but not overwhelming or dangerous.

I felt the usual anxiety (same on or off an AP) yesterday, so in addition to my usual dose of Klonopin I took the extra 1mg prn. K-pin is still the med that works best for me, hands down. I realize that's a possible problem, but what do you do when the problem is the best solution?

Since I'm dropping the Zyprexa I halved the Cogenton. Cogentin is another med that does almost nothing, but has very difficult side effects...extremely dry mouth and eyes. I am so done with my mouth being too dry to speak (have to constantly suck on cough drops) and - worst part - very dry eyes. Constantly red and irritated. People ask me if I'm okay because sometimes I can barely open my eyes due to the irritation from them being extremely dry.

*Beth* · Dec 31, 2019 at 06:41 PM

Other drivers irritated me more this morning; i.e., I am less patient. But I also have emotions that are human being emotions.

2p.m. to dark is the hardest time for me (anxiety/depression, but mostly anxiety), so I took a Klonopin, which helps.

My worry is that the best pharma treatment for me is about 5mg daily of Klonopin. What can I say? It really helps me, with no bad side-effects.

My throat and eyes are not painfully dry today (reduction of Cogentin).

Wild Coyote · Dec 31, 2019 at 07:21 PM

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!

*Beth* · Jan 01, 2020 at 03:20 AM

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HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!

The brightest of blessings to you...Happy New Year, WC!!!

Jan 01, 2020 at 07:39 AM

I didn't realize it was your birthday. Happy belated birthday and a happy new year!

Sorry that I haven't caught up with your thread. Been feeling off. Just wanted to wish you a happy b-day and happy new year.

*Beth* · Jan 01, 2020 at 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bluebicycle

I didn't realize it was your birthday. Happy belated birthday and a happy new year!

Sorry that I haven't caught up with your thread. Been feeling off. Just wanted to wish you a happy b-day and happy new year.

Thank you, blue

And oh gosh, no worries about my thread. While I appreciate any feedback, I'm really keeping it as a way to follow my medication withdrawal. I'm more likely to do so online than to write it down.

*Beth* · Jan 01, 2020 at 11:08 AM

Sleep not great (not a surprise, though). Besides sleep, I notice that I'm not emotionally numb (what a relief!); I actually feel happy (wish it would last all day, highly unlikely). My eyes and mouth are less dry (from halving the Cogentin). Hand tremor no worse.

cashart10 · Jan 01, 2020 at 04:01 PM

I haven’t been around for a bit so I completely missed your birthday. Hope it was a great one!

I totally understand about the weight gain because Remeron and then Seroquel took me from 135 to 225 in no time. My obgyn has put me on a very stringent extremely low carb high protein diet for life due to my severe PCOS. So far it’s helping me lose weight like crazy and was only hard in the beginning. Being told you have to have a different diet for a specific reason makes it much easier and more necessary to follow said diet I have learned. And, to my incredible surprise, the diet worked (I went 3 years with no period and then mid nov my obgyn prescribed a med to make me have a period and just over a month later I’ve had another with diet only changes, no other meds—unbelievable). She did put me on met form in to help me with appetite so that may be playing into the weight loss as well.

I’m glad you are keeping this thread and I hope you continue not to have diminished troubling symptoms and especially that your anxiety, depression, and mild paranoia subside.

*Beth* · Jan 01, 2020 at 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cashart10

I haven’t been around for a bit so I completely missed your birthday. Hope it was a great one!

Thank you! It was peaceful, which is great.

I totally understand about the weight gain because Remeron and then Seroquel took me from 135 to 225 in no time. My obgyn has put me on a very stringent extremely low carb high protein diet for life due to my severe PCOS. So far it’s helping me lose weight like crazy and was only hard in the beginning. Being told you have to have a different diet for a specific reason makes it much easier and more necessary to follow said diet I have learned. And, to my incredible surprise, the diet worked (I went 3 years with no period and then mid nov my obgyn prescribed a med to make me have a period and just over a month later I’ve had another with diet only changes, no other meds—unbelievable). She did put me on met form in to help me with appetite so that may be playing into the weight loss as well.

It's terrific that your obgyn takes your weight gain seriously enough to advise you on a diet. My doctors (pdoc, gyn, GP) are all nice people, caring...but it's always, "That's something to talk to (other MD) about" - and they'll tell me that this or that is weight related, yet they don't seem to take it seriously when I bring the amount of weight I've gained to their attention.

I am, thank the universe, on Metformin. I fairly begged my GP for it. In between stopping Seroquel and starting Zyprexa my appetite decreased remarkably. Started the Zyprexa and bang- teeth marks in the walls where I tried to eat them.

I’m glad you are keeping this thread and I hope you continue not to have diminished troubling symptoms and especially that your anxiety, depression, and mild paranoia subside.

Thank you so much for your encouragement and support.

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Wild Coyote · Jan 01, 2020 at 05:56 PM

"Bang teeth marks"

That is a good one!

*Beth* · Jan 01, 2020 at 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Wild Coyote

"Bang teeth marks"

That is a good one!

Truth! My walls have holes in them

*Beth* · Jan 01, 2020 at 06:12 PM

The anxiety was amping up again (just like it does every day at about 2p.m. So I took the 1mg K-pin and definitely feel like I've been sitting meditation for half an hour. As in, calm and peaceful.

It's very fortunate that Dr. W. sees the value in Klonopin (she pronounces it "clonAYzeepam", which drives me nuts) , because I think I see where this is going.

*Beth* · Jan 02, 2020 at 07:54 AM

No Zyprexa last night. I did take a tiny piece of Seroquel (about 10mg.) to help me sleep. I would have taken ZzzQuil if I had any. Anyway, my sleep was good. Or at least the same as when I was on Zyprexa.

Going to call the clinic and try to see Dr. W. today. If not, I have an appt. with her tomorrow. I suspect that she will suggest an AP. I'm going to stand my ground if at all possible. As in, No means NO.

giddykitty · Jan 02, 2020 at 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BethRags

Sees the value in KIonopin (she pronounces it "clonAYzeepam", which drives me nuts) , because I think I see where this is going.

What did you mean by this? Because clonazepam is just generic for klono...oh, I'm starting to think you know that...but where is this going??? Confused.

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Anonymous35014 Guest Posts: n/a	Jan 01, 2020 at 07:39 AM #31 I didn't realize it was your birthday. Happy belated birthday and a happy new year! Sorry that I haven't caught up with your thread. Been feeling off. Just wanted to wish you a happy b-day and happy new year.
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Beth catches the flowers Member Since Jul 2019 Location: Downtown Vibes, California Posts: 15,701 (SuperPoster!) 4 23.7k hugs given	Jan 01, 2020 at 11:08 AM #33 Sleep not great (not a surprise, though). Besides sleep, I notice that I'm not emotionally numb (what a relief!); I actually feel happy (wish it would last all day, highly unlikely). My eyes and mouth are less dry (from halving the Cogentin). Hand tremor no worse. __________________
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Wild Coyote Legendary Community Liaison Member Since Jun 2016 Location: USA Posts: 12,735 (SuperPoster!) 7 70.9k hugs given	Jan 01, 2020 at 05:56 PM #36 "Bang teeth marks" That is a good one! __________________ May we each fully claim the courage to live from our hearts, to allow Love, Faith and Hope to enLighten our paths.
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