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Default Apr 05, 2020 at 05:50 AM
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@yellow_fleurs: I use VSee too. There are actually two VSee apps -- VSee (the original) and "VSee Clinic."

The Clinic app has a "waiting room" feature where you log in and your pdoc/therapist clicks your name to start a call. (It's basically like a regular chatroom, except instead of clicking someone's name to type a message to them, you click the person to start a video or voice call. But if you're a patient in the waiting room, you cannot see other patients who are "waiting" there. Only your provider can see who's there.)

The regular VSee app has no such "waiting room" feature. Your pdoc/therapist has to know your email address in advance, they send a request for you to add them as a "friend," and THEN they can call you and you have to pick up the phone. It requires more setup and isn't as user friendly as the "Clinic" version.

Both apps allow you to disable the video if you want. There are buttons that show up on your phone screen that you can press. For example, here's a screenshot from my phone:

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Hey Blue,

I'm trying to come up with the minimum equipment needed to participate in a video call.

There are:: phones, computers, tablets . Oh, what about tablets?
There are some very inexpensive tablets or even Kindle Fire tablets. It's likely the non-kindle tablets are best, I think? (In saying "inexpensive," I do realize you, Beth, are trying to live on an extremely limited budget. I do know how difficult it can be )

Please forgive my ignorance here, what would one need to use a tablet for video calls? ie: earbuds with a mic?

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Default Apr 05, 2020 at 08:15 AM
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Hey Blue,

I'm trying to come up with the minimum equipment needed to participate in a video call.

There are:: phones, computers, tablets . Oh, what about tablets?
There are some very inexpensive tablets or even Kindle Fire tablets. It's likely the non-kindle tablets are best, I think? (In saying "inexpensive," I do realize you, Beth, are trying to live on an extremely limited budget. I do know how difficult it can be )

Please forgive my ignorance here, what would one need to use a tablet for video calls? ie: earbuds with a mic?

Thanks, Blue.
I don't know about tablets. I tried to download VSee and VSee Clinic to both of my iPads (older iPad mini and very new iPad Air) and both apps gave me problems. So I was limited to using my phone and my MacBook Pro... but phone is easier for me. Have not tried it on Windows because I do not own a Windows machine.

It looks like there *is* a VSee app for Kindle (upon a quick Amazon search): https://www.amazon.com/VSee/dp/B01KIVODVC

I do not see VSee Clinic, though.

But yes, a pair of earphones with a mic would work if you're using your computer; same with a phone. However, I don't know what a computer would do if you download the software without having a webcam. I don't know if it would crash or what, but it can be tried.

Phone is probably easiest though. Most phones will work with VSee and VSee Clinic. I've developed Android and iOS apps before, and when you design the apps, you can set the minimum version of the operating system you want to support. The majority of Android apps support Android Jelly Bean (version 4.x) and later, and Jelly Bean came out in 2012... so even if your phone is 8 years old, it should be supported (in theory). But in some cases, they only support Marshmallow (version 6.x) and later, but that came out in 2015, so even if you've had your phone for 5 years, it should work.
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Default Apr 05, 2020 at 10:25 AM
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Hey Beth,
I am very sorry you've been treated this way. It's clearly unhelpful for you pdoc to act in this manner.

I do understand doctors being concerned about malpractice when "treatment" /observations are limited to the phone and extending this concern to video as well. Pdocs are suppp0sed to be able to dx TD,and they often use observation as a part of their evaluation. If telemedicine continues as the chosen method of treatment, some concessions must be made around major barrier/obstacles.

I have a friend in Japan. Video cafes are huge there. People go into the café, ask to reserve time and a small room. They use the computer to work on some of their online tasks. It's just one way people might be able to participate in telemedicine.

Another possibility might be a local library. I just don't know how much privacy one might have in that setting..

We need creative ideas for procuring computers for people in need..

I am so sorry so many are without the equipment needs. I hope provisions will be made.
I totally agree with fern, use what you have and do so without apology..

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Back in the '90's we had internet cafes here. Computers, printers, webcams. I don't know why they disappeared.

Something my pdoc didn't consider is that almost every store is closed at this time. All gov't buildings except police stations are closed. No library for a month so far Even IF I had the funds to buy a webcam, there's no where to purchase one - and definitely no way to get tech help.

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