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Default Apr 05, 2020 at 08:41 PM
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Honestly, looking back over all the threads, those threads concerned with the topic are obvious by their titles. When words such as covid-19, corona virus, shelter-in-place, quarantine, in isolation, cooped up, the apocalypse, etc, appear, you can pretty well bet "the situation" will be the topic of conversation! If you don't want to read them, don't. It really is that simple.

Sure it may show up randomly from time to time elsewhere, and will also likely make some appearances in the check-in thread. Because it's world-wide, unprecedented, and the biggest event of most everyone's lifetime!

It's already clear in the titles.

Sorry to be so blunt, but sheesh, the solution is simple. No need to complicate it.

People already *are* using obvious titles.

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Default Apr 05, 2020 at 08:52 PM
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Honestly, looking back over all the threads, those threads concerned with the topic are obvious by their titles. When words such as covid-19, corona virus, shelter-in-place, quarantine, in isolation, cooped up, the apocalypse, etc, appear, you can pretty well bet "the situation" will be the topic of conversation! If you don't want to read them, don't. It really is that simple.

Sure it may show up randomly from time to time elsewhere, and will also likely make some appearances in the check-in thread. Because it's world-wide, unprecedented, and the biggest event of most everyone's lifetime!

It's already clear in the titles.

Sorry to be so blunt, but sheesh, the solution is simple. No need to complicate it.

People already *are* using obvious titles.
Good points, Innerzone.

I think there's a difference between saying fear mongering things and things like "yeah, I'm quarantined at home. I'm bored. " I guess that's what I'm getting at. For example, talking about deaths, how it's ravaging people's bodies, etc.. I suppose I should have been more explicit on that, so I apologize.

I mean, on a personal level, it doesn't matter to me. I'm not getting triggered. But I can see how it would upset people if perhaps they had a pre-existing condition and someone else is going on and on and on about how COVID-19 is killing people with pre-existing conditions. I think that's just fueling their anxiety. (And I admit, I have done this myself and regret triggering people.)

I suppose this is why a COVID-19 thread like WC suggested would be a good solution. Lets people talk about death rates, pre-existing conditions, etc. in one place so that others aren't getting panicky.

People in the check-in thread really aren't talking about suicide anymore because there's now a thread for it (which is great!). I would assume that people would probably respect a COVID-19 thread and post their COVID-19 related talks in there rather than post things that are scaring people in the check-in thread. Believe me, people have sent PM's about it.
 
 
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Default Apr 06, 2020 at 04:37 AM
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I would be in big favor of a COVID-19 specific thread where we could post our feelings on the situation and things. It's something that's affecting me greatly, but I've felt a little turned off from being able to vent in the check in thread or starting a thread because I know many people are trying to find places they can unplug from hearing or reading about it.
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Default Apr 06, 2020 at 01:14 PM
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My personal opinion.... trigger warnings are VERY helpful to some of us.

It is not always as simple as ''just don't read it'' for everyone.

I believe at least one member has experienced very severe symptoms due to triggers about a certain .... topic.

And please do not ask me for clarification.

I do not want to call anyone out or ''out'' anyone or speak for anyone else.

And I am writing this in a hurry so please forgive any errors.

An example of what I might do in posting on a potentially very triggering topic..

TRIGGER ...... content of post.... TRIGGER

Thank you for your patience in reading this.

I'm very grateful to those who are able to think about the fact that others DO have different needs, triggers etc and that this is not something to be judged.


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Default Apr 06, 2020 at 01:27 PM
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Fuzzy, I think we should wait to see what an admin/moderator has to say about a potential dedicated thread. WC said she PM'ed an admin about it, which may be a better solution for everyone, than to have people put up trigger warnings. Then people who are triggered would then be able to ignore the big thread.
 
 
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Default Apr 06, 2020 at 02:39 PM
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Honestly, looking back over all the threads, those threads concerned with the topic are obvious by their titles. When words such as covid-19, corona virus, shelter-in-place, quarantine, in isolation, cooped up, the apocalypse, etc, appear, you can pretty well bet "the situation" will be the topic of conversation! If you don't want to read them, don't. It really is that simple.

Sure it may show up randomly from time to time elsewhere, and will also likely make some appearances in the check-in thread. Because it's world-wide, unprecedented, and the biggest event of most everyone's lifetime!

It's already clear in the titles.

Sorry to be so blunt, but sheesh, the solution is simple. No need to complicate it.

People already *are* using obvious titles.

I agree. The situation is so insanely complicated already and we are all having to live with it. All of us are. At this time, at least 1/3 of the posts on PC would have a trigger warning on them - and that's in addition to threads not having to do with COVID that have a trigger warning. Pretty soon the majority of threads will have a trigger warning. To me, that in itself is stressful.

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Fuzzy, I think we should wait to see what an admin/moderator has to say about a potential dedicated thread. WC said she PM'ed an admin about it, which may be a better solution for everyone, than to have people put up trigger warnings. Then people who are triggered would then be able to ignore the big thread.
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To be honest, I think both sides have expressed their opinions, and a request from WC to the mods has already been made. At this point, it is best to see what the admin team thinks because they have been around for a while and genuinely want what's best for the forum. I want what is best too.

I am fine with whatever the admins want to decide, because it is their forum and I am personally not triggered. Just am repeating what others have told me.

In the meantime, I will probably request this thread to get closed because I think there is not much of a discussion to be had at this point.
 
 
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Default Apr 06, 2020 at 03:01 PM
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Talking continuously about how triggering it is and pointing it out every time someone mentions it adds a ton more energy to it than if it were just noted and moved past. Notice I did not say ignore. I'm not suggesting anyone ignore what is in front of your face. That makes no sense. However, we have a choice of how much energy to give it. We have a choice of reaction. We can choose to feel victimized or we can realize someone else's perspective does not need to be our own and they have needs too.

All of our needs are equal. Someone playfully engagging with the topic does not mean someone else needs to be offended because a joke was made. Someone noting they are struggling does not require anyone else to struggle alongside them. One person's choice of action is not a judgment of our own. I see a lot of projecting and judgment occurring and it feels off around here. It feels like another virus is affecting us and it is not physical.

It is a worldwide event that is significantly impacting the lives of almost everyone and it is affecting our mental health. That is entirely relavent to this forum. It is relavent to check ins. It is relavent to questions. It is relavent to individual threads. I am sorry it is triggering to some. For others, this is the one outlet they have to share how they are feeling. Are their needs less worthy?

What is triggering to me is to watch people tearing each other down while everyone is doing the best they can to survive right now. I've watched people attacking each other in my own community and there is a presence of negativity surrounding it here now as well. This is less than optimal teamwork. There is a place here for everyone despite our triggers. Sometimes we need to step away because the group goes a direction we cannot follow. Sometimes we need to hold on tighter because we need the support. I encourage everyone to do what they need to, but do it with a spirit and a heart that realizes your own personal needs, desires and styles are no more or less important than anyone else's. That's my trigger in all this. All I expect is to be heard. If the tide continues to flow in the other direction I will accept that as the outcome and move on. If we can get back to business as usual while adapting to the changes before us, I think that's awesome. Either way, you are all important to me. I support you even if you trigger me or disagree.
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Default Apr 06, 2020 at 03:03 PM
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To be honest, I think both sides have expressed their opinions, and a request from WC to the mods has already been made. At this point, it is best to see what the admin team thinks because they have been around for a while and genuinely want what's best for the forum. I want what is best too.

I am fine with whatever the admins want to decide, because it is their forum and I am personally not triggered. Just am repeating what others have told me.

In the meantime, I will probably request this thread to get closed because I think there is not much of a discussion to be had at this point.
I'm good with that. Sorry for the reply after yours. I was crafting my two cents while you posted.
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I also find it triggering watching others tearing each other down.

I also believe our own personal needs, desires and styles are no more and no less important than anyone elses.

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Talking continuously about how triggering it is and pointing it out every time someone mentions it adds a ton more energy to it than if it were just noted and moved past. Notice I did not say ignore. I'm not suggesting anyone ignore what is in front of your face. That makes no sense. However, we have a choice of how much energy to give it. We have a choice of reaction. We can choose to feel victimized or we can realize someone else's perspective does not need to be our own and they have needs too.

All of our needs are equal. Someone playfully engagging with the topic does not mean someone else needs to be offended because a joke was made. Someone noting they are struggling does not require anyone else to struggle alongside them. One person's choice of action is not a judgment of our own. I see a lot of projecting and judgment occurring and it feels off around here. It feels like another virus is affecting us and it is not physical.

It is a worldwide event that is significantly impacting the lives of almost everyone and it is affecting our mental health. That is entirely relavent to this forum. It is relavent to check ins. It is relavent to questions. It is relavent to individual threads. I am sorry it is triggering to some. For others, this is the one outlet they have to share how they are feeling. Are their needs less worthy?

What is triggering to me is to watch people tearing each other down while everyone is doing the best they can to survive right now. I've watched people attacking each other in my own community and there is a presence of negativity surrounding it here now as well. This is less than optimal teamwork. There is a place here for everyone despite our triggers. Sometimes we need to step away because the group goes a direction we cannot follow. Sometimes we need to hold on tighter because we need the support. I encourage everyone to do what they need to, but do it with a spirit and a heart that realizes your own personal needs, desires and styles are no more or less important than anyone else's. That's my trigger in all this. All I expect is to be heard. If the tide continues to flow in the other direction I will accept that as the outcome and move on. If we can get back to business as usual while adapting to the changes before us, I think that's awesome. Either way, you are all important to me. I support you even if you trigger me or disagree.
I hope you don't move on because of this. I support people if I can even if they disagree etc.

sorry blue to post again, I agree that opinions re this have been discussed enough.


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I hope you don't move on because of this. I support people if I can even if they disagree etc.

sorry blue to post again, I agree that opinions re this have been discussed enough.

I just meant move on as in focus my energy elsewhere for a while... Not as in leave forever Thanks Fuzzy
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