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Default Aug 06, 2020 at 01:39 AM
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I got called into HR today. Basically I’m up for termination for using up all my UTO (I only had 10 hrs which covers 1 shift) and I have went into the negative by 6 hrs of UTO. He said they’re gonna let it slide because I just recently became a blue badge which has these rules that my “white badge” didn’t, which was on a point system.... but basically I can’t miss the rest of the year until UTO re-accrues. I personally think missing two nonsecuative days isn’t warranting of termination and that’s extreme but anyway... I told him it is a medical thing and what are my options.

He said I can ask for leave accommodation— basically I have to get a doctor to say because of a medical condition I’m allowed to miss X hours a month or something. That paperwork will take some time and until then I’m SOL if I am late or can’t make it. I can’t afford to lose this job. They’re not firing me but I am in tears. I can’t handle this very well right now.

Will having a mental illness be accomodatable? I’m not looking for anything insane.... just to be able to miss more than one day of work without being on thin ice. I don’t even know my psychiatrist well enough to even ask about it. I may just have to move back into a toxic household. I can’t afford to be without a job. I’m really upset.

Any experience with this? Am I lost cause? I just want to curl up in a ball and cry.
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Default Aug 06, 2020 at 03:28 AM
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I really don’t know how it works but are you eligible for FMLA?
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I really don’t know how it works but are you eligible for FMLA?
I have to work there for a year in order to you use FMLA
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Default Aug 06, 2020 at 06:32 AM
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What is UTO? Unpaid time off?

In my opinion, it's worth asking for accommodations because you're on thin ice, as you say.

My main concern is that your employer may think you're making up excuses to get extra time off. Although it's possible they'll be understanding, it's likely they don't fully understand bipolar (or mental illness in general). They may also get upset if you didn't list that you have a disability upon hiring since bipolar is technically considered one. Not sure if you declared it or not, though.

I think you can try to work something out. I'm sorry that you're going through this because I know I've needed to take extra time off when my bipolar was "flaring up" in some way.
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Default Aug 06, 2020 at 07:01 AM
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I would definitely ask your psychiatrist for a statement ASAP. It can't hurt, and I think there's a good chance they'll say yes. Even if you don't know each other too well yet, they do know your diagnosis and history, right? What's the worst that can happen if you ask?
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Default Aug 06, 2020 at 09:04 AM
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It’s all of that that worries me. While it’s not necessarily wrong to say I’m “milking it” for some leeway, my anxiety really is getting the best of me. I’m 30min early to everything. Everything. I can’t stand being late. I left for work earlier than usual the other day and got stuck in traffic because there was something unexpected going on (a wreck? I’m not sure.) I called my mom bearing crying because I was afraid about being late for work. I about gave myself a heart attack and the only option I had was to endure it. Luckily I got to work 3 min before start of my shift..... but I left 30 minutes early which meant I left an hour before my shift.... which means I hate accounted for the time which means what about next time? Now I’m afraid from the moment I wake up that I won’t get to work on time and will get fired. Now I can’t can’t afford to be even a second late so that just adds an extra layer of anxiety.

I have a job where I work with people 2% of the time. This job is capable and should be stress free. I just woke up in a panic attack. I couldn’t breathe because I think I left my scanner on my cart. Scanners automatically log you out. There is absolutely no harm in leaving the scanner or “repercussions” but have taken 30 minutes for me to calm down from that this morning....I mean a panic attack cannot kill you but god does it sure feel like it. Please don’t think that isn’t severe in itself.

I don’t think I can spend days off or days working without being in constant fear of losing my job now. That seems like undue stress doesn’t it? I can’t relax and I can’t ensure I won’t get fired so I have intense anxiety. The chances of something going extremely wrong in this state of mind are high — like a car accident. I’m now afraid I’ll get into one because I’m so stressed out about work. (I am very new to driving in a city mind you.)

I answered the disability question with “prefer not to answer”. It’s none of their damn business and I’m not going allows my hiring to be affected based on it. I guess I created more of an issue than solution there.

The depression and anxiety run my life and I can’t even hold a damn job! I’m just done. It’s my days off now (at least I’ve checked 6 times and it still says it is) so we will see how this goes. I don’t want to go back to living in my car.

I feel like just dying (figuratively— no want to kill myself. I’m facing reality of living in my car again and that’s about as bad.)

I hope I made sense. I riled myself up writing this and I need to go cry. My doctor already highly suggest IOP if I lose my job maybe I can get myself inpatient — or at least on a 72 hour hold. Hell. It’s at least a meal and air conditioning compared to dying in the sun again:

I’m sick. I’m just absolutely sick. I don’t deserve accommodations and no employer wants to work with me. I’m a failure.
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Default Aug 06, 2020 at 11:09 AM
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I got called into HR today. Basically I’m up for termination for using up all my UTO (I only had 10 hrs which covers 1 shift) and I have went into the negative by 6 hrs of UTO. He said they’re gonna let it slide because I just recently became a blue badge which has these rules that my “white badge” didn’t, which was on a point system.... but basically I can’t miss the rest of the year until UTO re-accrues. I personally think missing two nonsecuative days isn’t warranting of termination and that’s extreme but anyway... I told him it is a medical thing and what are my options.

He said I can ask for leave accommodation— basically I have to get a doctor to say because of a medical condition I’m allowed to miss X hours a month or something. That paperwork will take some time and until then I’m SOL if I am late or can’t make it. I can’t afford to lose this job. They’re not firing me but I am in tears. I can’t handle this very well right now.

Will having a mental illness be accomodatable? I’m not looking for anything insane.... just to be able to miss more than one day of work without being on thin ice. I don’t even know my psychiatrist well enough to even ask about it. I may just have to move back into a toxic household. I can’t afford to be without a job. I’m really upset.

Any experience with this? Am I lost cause? I just want to curl up in a ball and cry.
How long can it take to write anote w your dx on it? 5 minutes?

You are protected under the ADA. You can sue them for discrimination if they do not accomodate you. Get that letter today!!!

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I want to clarify my last post, Marcus. I was griping at your doc not you--for making it hard for you to get the note. Ridiculous. Sorry I wrote unclearly.

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I want to clarify my last post, Marcus. I was griping at your doc not you--for making it hard for you to get the note. Ridiculous. Sorry I wrote unclearly.

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I took it the way you intended. No worries.

I’ve fought since day one here and had to plead my case and beg and deal with issue after issue after issue... I’m sick of it. I’m not gonna fight got accommodations. I may be protected under ADA but it’s not worth the emotional toll. All I want to do is sleep and not deal with this **** day in and day out. I shouldn’t have to prove to anyone anything. I’m barely proving I can hold a job. Ugh.

I’ll leave my opinions about management in places like this to myself because I already sound like a pompous ass— no sense in giving that idea more fodder. I’m just fed up.

So, just like I had to do before — I’ve just given in. It’s better to just take the beating and go on than to try to change “the way things are”. This is a job— noT a career choice or a stepping stone to something better. I’d do well to remember that.
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Default Aug 10, 2020 at 08:50 PM
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Reminds me of my ex father-in-law. He was about 55 and he worked for Ford. He had so many sick days and vacation days and personal days that he would just take a day off even though there wasn't a thing wrong with him. He didn't suffer from mental illness. I always thought he was weird for taking days off because he would just putter around the house watching tv- he had a tv in every room except the bathrooms. Life just isn't fair! I never got alo g with him. Glad he's not my father-in-law anymore.

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I wish i could make things easier for you. I remember how hard working was. Management were unreasonable about attendance at my work too. At the end, when i was calling in sick every second Friday i had 52 days of sick leave banked and they were still on my case about it! It just got so hard to string together five consecutive eight-hour days. My job may have only taken 40 hours a week but it took 100% of my time because when i wasn't working i was convalescing and doing preparations to go back to work. Between the job and a husband i had no life. I was a numb robot. When my beloved cat died i didn't even go to claim her ashes because it would have just been one more thing on an endless to-do list for propping me up to go to work.

It would be so much better if work was shared around more equally, if the choice wasn't 40 hours a week or disability and no hours a week. Hard to live on part-time wages. Also i worked 25 years ago before there was any real awareness of psychiatric disability and no word at all about accomodations.

Here in Ontario there is the possibility of working to "top-up" public disability benefits so it's not so darn hard to live on them. I get private disability benefits so i don't know a whole lot about it.

I certainly admire you for your determination to work. Just hate to see you suffer.

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