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*Beth* · Oct 08, 2020 at 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Fuzzybear

Thanks Beth. Withdrawing from the Paxil was definitely a nightmare. I was reading some reviews and information on that med last night (very mixed reviews, as with other meds probably) There was a site online some years ago which was exclusively for withdrawing from Paxil. I did not join but read there occasionally. There was a lot of information there (and support... etc...) Some people posted there for 10 plus years if I recall correctly (but I could be wrong)

I did not withdraw from it with liquid titrations as was recommended on that site. I doubt if that option would have been available in this country (and if it was........

SSRI's are notoriously difficult to withdraw from (but most pdocs refuse to believe that) - unless you cross over immediately to another SSRI.

(edited)

I think the official line is still that Paxil is ''not addictive'' and that withdrawals last >>?? I do not know. It's a while since I read any official info re this. I am hoping the benzo withdrawal will not be as rough... or maybe it will be ''worse''...
Yes...

I'm going to dance a bit to try to get some of this.... stuff... out of my head.

Love to all

And to you

ETA Papa bear has been at home all day. We had a ''visitor'' today.... (mending our loo).

He does not want me to talk (this will probably be so for the rest of this day)

Why doesn't he want you to talk? Maybe because he has no loo right now

I had asked him if he would read this post to check for typos .. etc.

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bizi · Oct 08, 2020 at 09:11 PM

I am hoping for a smooth detox from klonipin for you.
I only take 1mg for sleep at night.
I don't know the equivalent dose of the diazapam.
My provider took me off with out a taper and
I freaked out. I could not sleep.

how is your sleep going?
Now I have a new provider and gave me my klonipin back.
you are being very brave in wanting to do this.
I assumed it was your choice or is this your providers decision?
((((((HUGS)))))))
bizi

*Beth* · Oct 08, 2020 at 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bizi

I am hoping for a smooth detox from klonipin for you.
I only take 1mg for sleep at night.
I don't know the equivalent dose of the diazapam.
My provider took me off with out a taper and
I freaked out. I could not sleep.

how is your sleep going?
Now I have a new provider and gave me my klonipin back.
you are being very brave in wanting to do this.
I assumed it was your choice or is this your providers decision?
((((((HUGS)))))))
bizi

Thank you, bizi. One of my greatest fears has been that a provider would take me off Klonopin with no taper, or too fast of a taper. I'm so sorry you went through that. It's dangerous. I have read many times that Klonopin is more difficult, and much more risky, to stop taking than heroin is. From friends I've had and people I've known I believe it.

My sleep is not good, but I haven't yet cut back on the K-pin. I take a small amount of Seroquel and ZzzQuil to sleep. Those help.

It is my choice. I'm tired of taking a medication that isn't helping me in any way anymore. I would have to take 6mg. of K-pin all at once for it to affect me.

bizi · Oct 09, 2020 at 12:06 AM

Hi fuzzy, how is it going?
how long in between tapers?
how slowly can you go?

I hope it goes smoothly for you.
when my pdoc took me off the klonipin that I had been on for years because I drank....I could not sleep.
How is your sleeping?
much affection to you,
bizi

Fuzzybear · Oct 09, 2020 at 10:49 AM

Hi Bizi and Beth and all,

I decided to taper as the temazepam was not working as well as it used to and this month my supplies were running very low (fang appointments etc). I also have diazepam prescribed.

The taper is going well at the moment. I took 5mg diazepam last night ... and also 2 piriton which are also prescribed for allergies.

The prescribed dose was (/is) higher than this, 30mg temazepam at night or 3 x 5mg diazepam.

I have also heard of providers abruptly stopping other peoples’ benzos. I’m sorry a provider did that to you Bizi

That probably factored into my decision to taper without their input.

I’ve been sleeping ok.

*Beth* · Oct 09, 2020 at 06:18 PM

It's wonderful that you've been sleeping okay, Fuzzy! I'm so glad

Fuzzybear · Oct 09, 2020 at 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BethRags

It's wonderful that you've been sleeping okay, Fuzzy! I'm so glad

Thanks BethRags

I haven't experienced withdrawal symptoms except for probably my censor isn't working as well as usual today. In fact almost certainly it isn't

Grrrrrr. I deleted some of the messages I didn't ''like'' but I can't delete a PM. Sometimes I don't like waiting and wondering what I have said ''wrong''... anyway I have to log out so I'll keep wondering. I usually keep my censor on for PMs and posts. But that limits authentic communication so it's a dilemma

(of course the person I PMd might not even be online or might have more urgent mail. I also never call anyone irl if I'm in crisis as it always makes things worse. Grrrrr

Fuzzybear · Oct 09, 2020 at 06:32 PM

Why?

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bizi · Oct 09, 2020 at 06:33 PM

Is your husband helpful/encouraging?
bizi ((((HUGS))))

Fuzzybear · Oct 09, 2020 at 06:45 PM

He tries

I'm ''too much'' for most people. He also needs a lot of alone time, and it's not me he is wanting to escape from, he doesn't like talking much to anyone. I told a relative that and they just said ''all men are like that''.... NO. I have known others who are not ''like that''.... but they were also abusers (my ex fiasco for example)

I wonder why I attract so many abusers?

Fuzzybear · Oct 09, 2020 at 06:54 PM

I'm writing a load of BS today. Bad bad bad me

*Beth* · Oct 09, 2020 at 10:45 PM

Nooo, you're not bad! I enjoy reading about you. You don't usually tell us much about your daily life

Fuzzybear · Oct 10, 2020 at 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BethRags

Nooo, you're not bad! I enjoy reading about you. You don't usually tell us much about your daily life

Thanks BethRags

I just made a long post

I was very sleepy and tired today (not much sleep last night). Today was uneventful mostly except for me talking ''too much'' and about the ''wrong'' things... I was so tired earlier I napped a bit in the afternoon, or tried to. One diazepam last night. I was having some weird memories earlier on... not things I usually remember.

*Beth* · Oct 10, 2020 at 04:56 PM

Fuzzy, who tells you that you're talking about the "wrong" things?

Fuzzybear · Oct 10, 2020 at 05:02 PM

A lot of people have told me this... parents, doctors, even therapists... and I talk about the ''wrong'' things when I make Papa bear feel bad (I also ''ruined'' my mother's life I was told this many times.. and that I ''should be punished all my life''..)

*Beth* · Oct 10, 2020 at 05:13 PM

I was told the same by my mother. Exactly those words! Do you know, just because some people tell you this or that doesn't mean they are correct.

bizi · Oct 10, 2020 at 05:16 PM

Who ever told you that about your mother...and that you should be punished all of your life is full of sh**. Sounds like an abuser too.
Do you have to maintain contact with that person. I would avoid them like the plague!
(((((HUGS))))
bizi

Fuzzybear · 06:45 PM

We now have a computer I'm not allergic to

Fuzzybear · Oct 12, 2020 at 07:37 PM

Thanks Bizi and BethRags

5mg diazepam last night (My sleep wasn't too bad)

*Beth* · Oct 12, 2020 at 10:54 PM

Great!

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