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Old 12-18-2018, 10:45 AM #1
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Default ignore list question

sometimes members put someone on ignore and in turn ask the person they are placing on ignore. the guideline is that those who have people on ignore not like or thank those on their ignore list and not post to those they have on their ignore list by way of other peoples posts.

does this follow through when someone has asked you to place them on your ignore list...

example if I ask john doe (fake user name here) to put me on ignore. Joe doe does as I ask him to.

so now John doe is on my ignore list, is john doe supposed to go to other members threads and post to me after they have asked to be on my ignore list and I did what they told me to do?

or does the ignore rule apply that says those on ignore list are not supposed to be posting to each other, not even in other members threads purposely bypassing the ignore list?
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It's only on a forced ignore which the moderators have stepped in to not only force two members to place each other on ignore but to prohibit the members from commenting under each other or to thank/hug each other or on the same post as another member. This is usually an extreme measure when two members have violated the rules and guidelines repeatedly towards each other, and breaking the forced ignore can result in suspension. The moderators would have made it clear to you of these rules. Sometimes mods will say "If you do not like this member, put them on your ignore list" It's not a hard limit, but a suggestion, and it does not mean you are on a forced ignore.

However, let's say you ignored me on your own terms aka without the moderator's stepping in. I wouldn't be able to comment on your threads, but it's perfectly acceptable to post on another member's posts and thank/hug other member's when you do. I do find it odd, however, that you can still post on the threads of someone you ignored, yet they cannot do the same to you because they are on your list. I would prefer some notification that says "You cannot reply to this member because they are on your ignore list." It's typically only when moderator's have stepped in and set hard limits that can result in suspension if you comment under an forced ignore's post and such.
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I never thought the rule was saying you could not respond to someone in a 3rd party thread if they were on your ignore list or vice versa. In fact, it happens quite frequently, and admin has admitted it's one of the faults of ignore. I have never asked someone to put me on their ignore list. I have confronted ppl for using Tapatalk to subvert the ignore list.

I think people should manage their own ignore lists, and we shouldn't ask others to place us on ignore. If they respond to you on someone else's thread, you won't see it anyhow because you have them on ignore, so just ignore it.

I don't follow your example with John Doe. Why would he be going to other members' threads to post to you? Unless it was to harass you? Why would you be responding to him on a 3rd party thread if you have him on ignore?

I've also not seen the guideline about not liking or thanking or not responding on 3rd party posts. Is that new? This is the only thing in the guidelines about ignore:

"Members who have other members on their Ignore list should not start community/group/game/party/holiday threads, because it would limit who could post to such a thread; such members should ask a community support team member to start the thread instead."
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I never thought the rule was saying you could not respond to someone in a 3rd party thread if they were on your ignore list or vice versa. In fact, it happens quite frequently, and admin has admitted it's one of the faults of ignore. I have never asked someone to put me on their ignore list. I have confronted ppl for using Tapatalk to subvert the ignore list.

I think people should manage their own ignore lists, and we shouldn't ask others to place us on ignore. If they respond to you on someone else's thread, you won't see it anyhow because you have them on ignore, so just ignore it.

I don't follow your example with John Doe. Why would he be going to other members' threads to post to you? Unless it was to harass you? Why would you be responding to him on a 3rd party thread if you have him on ignore?

I've also not seen the guideline about not liking or thanking or not responding on 3rd party posts. Is that new? This is the only thing in the guidelines about ignore:

"Members who have other members on their Ignore list should not start community/group/game/party/holiday threads, because it would limit who could post to such a thread; such members should ask a community support team member to start the thread instead."
the reason I was asking is because I thought I read somewhere here that if you know you are on someones ignore list you are not supposed to by pass the purpose of the ignore feature by posting to that person in someone elses thread.

I am under the understanding that people are not supposed to be by passing the ignore list by posting to those people they know they have on ignore or know they are on others ignore listing.

its one thing to not know you are on someones ignore list and post to them in someone elses thread.

but its another to know you are on someones list and on purpose bypass the purpose of the ignore feature, by posting in someone elses thread.

I would like to know what we are supposed to do when and if we find someone who has us on ignore and wants to be on our ignore listing postig directly to us in someone elses thread in other words purposely bypassing the function of the ignore list.

why have an ignore list at all, if people are going to place each other on ignore, ask to be on each others ignore list so then go around it / bypass its intended purpose by posting to you in other peoples threads...

I would like clarification if we are supposed to be using the ignore list this way.... purposely bypassing each others lists by posting in other peoples threads....

example joe bly and I hav e each other on ignore so then joe bye posts picking a fight in another persons thread with the post directed to me. and vice versa me posting something like joe bly you are this that and the other things and I dont agree with you placed in someone elses thread bypassing joe blys ignore list.

I thought we were not supposed to be doing this... bypassing each others ignore lists but would like clarification and what to do if we find this is happening.

editing to add just remembered this was discussed before so went looking for the link....

https://forums.psychcentral.com/comm...ml#post4690939

dated on 9 - 23 -15 and states ....

The technology of "Ignore" as we use it here is imperfect, and you must respect the wishes of those placing you on Ignore (even if technically, you can circumvent the ignore by posting to their Wall or what-not).

A member should also not circumvent an Ignore in other ways, such as quoting a post from another person's post in order to respond to the person on Ignore.

You should not use other features of the community -- such as Thanks or Hugs -- to a person that you have on your Ignore list.

DocJohn

and another link....

https://forums.psychcentral.com/comm...ml#post5012897

The technology of "Ignore" as we use it here is imperfect, and you must respect the wishes of those placing you on Ignore (even if technically, you can circumvent the ignore by posting to their Wall or what-not).

A member should also not circumvent an Ignore in other ways, such as quoting a post from another person's post in order to respond to the person on Ignore.

You should not use other features of the community -- such as Thanks or Hugs -- to a person that you have on your Ignore list.

DocJohn

so now I have my answer we are ..............not.............supposed to be posting, thanking or liking /hugs to each other if we have each other on ignore.

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the reason I was asking is because I thought I read somewhere here that if you know you are on someones ignore list you are not supposed to by pass the purpose of the ignore feature by posting to that person in someone elses thread.

I am under the understanding that people are not supposed to be by passing the ignore list by posting to those people they know they have on ignore or know they are on others ignore listing.

its one thing to not know you are on someones ignore list and post to them in someone elses thread.

but its another to know you are on someones list and on purpose bypass the purpose of the ignore feature, by posting in someone elses thread.

I would like to know what we are supposed to do when and if we find someone who has us on ignore and wants to be on our ignore listing postig directly to us in someone elses thread in other words purposely bypassing the function of the ignore list.

why have an ignore list at all, if people are going to place each other on ignore, ask to be on each others ignore list so then go around it / bypass its intended purpose by posting to you in other peoples threads...

I would like clarification if we are supposed to be using the ignore list this way.... purposely bypassing each others lists by posting in other peoples threads....

example joe bly and I hav e each other on ignore so then joe bye posts picking a fight in another persons thread with the post directed to me. and vice versa me posting something like joe bly you are this that and the other things and I dont agree with you placed in someone elses thread bypassing joe blys ignore list.

I thought we were not supposed to be doing this... bypassing each others ignore lists but would like clarification and what to do if we find this is happening.

editing to add just remembered this was discussed before so went looking for the link....

https://forums.psychcentral.com/comm...ml#post4690939

dated on 9 - 23 -15 and states ....

The technology of "Ignore" as we use it here is imperfect, and you must respect the wishes of those placing you on Ignore (even if technically, you can circumvent the ignore by posting to their Wall or what-not).

A member should also not circumvent an Ignore in other ways, such as quoting a post from another person's post in order to respond to the person on Ignore.

You should not use other features of the community -- such as Thanks or Hugs -- to a person that you have on your Ignore list.

DocJohn

and another link....

https://forums.psychcentral.com/comm...ml#post5012897

The technology of "Ignore" as we use it here is imperfect, and you must respect the wishes of those placing you on Ignore (even if technically, you can circumvent the ignore by posting to their Wall or what-not).

A member should also not circumvent an Ignore in other ways, such as quoting a post from another person's post in order to respond to the person on Ignore.

You should not use other features of the community -- such as Thanks or Hugs -- to a person that you have on your Ignore list.

DocJohn

so now I have my answer we are ..............not.............supposed to be posting, thanking or liking /hugs to each other if we have each other on ignore.
Right, I have seen those posts too that we should not, but I have never seen any action taken against someone who does. And I have had people circumvent ignore and reported it, with no action taken. And that's because I think, as DocJohn says, the technology is imperfect, so they would like people to respect ignore, but some people don't, and there's not much to be done.

So if you don't want to engage with someone, you wouldn't be thanking/hugging or otherwise responding on other threads. The person who is doing so to you may not know that you have them on ignore.

I have had people who I have on ignore respond to me in 3rd party threads (quoting me) and using Tapatalk to comment on my threads directly. I've never seen those posts removed once reported. So I think they stand by the imperfection of ignore. It is what it is.
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Right, I have seen those posts too that we should not, but I have never seen any action taken against someone who does. And I have had people circumvent ignore and reported it, with no action taken. And that's because I think, as DocJohn says, the technology is imperfect, so they would like people to respect ignore, but some people don't, and there's not much to be done.

So if you don't want to engage with someone, you wouldn't be thanking/hugging or otherwise responding on other threads. The person who is doing so to you may not know that you have them on ignore.

I have had people who I have on ignore respond to me in 3rd party threads (quoting me) and using Tapatalk to comment on my threads directly. I've never seen those posts removed once reported. So I think they stand by the imperfection of ignore. It is what it is.
its my understanding we dont get to know publicly if any action is taken when we report violations of any kind including the ignore list. thats an administrative issue and is dealt with between the mods and who ever.

that said any time I have a question about something I have reported I know I can pm a mod to see if its been addressed or not, and how.
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I think if someone is bypassing a known ignore between the user and admins and mods, that it is appropriate to follow up with communication with admins and mods. Sometimes it is a matter of trying to circumvent harassment. And despite some of the technological aspects, it's important that this is as safe of an environment as possible.
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its my understanding we dont get to know publicly if any action is taken when we report violations of any kind including the ignore list. thats an administrative issue and is dealt with between the mods and who ever.

that said any time I have a question about something I have reported I know I can pm a mod to see if its been addressed or not, and how.
I meant that I had reported responses from someone on ignore, to myself, asking them to be removed because I had the person on ignore and they were circumventing, and the posts were never removed and the person continued responding to me through Tapatalk or elsewhere.
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this isnt about everyone getting along or not. the ignore list is to protect yourself from things that may trigger you.

I was asking if the same rules apply when someone..........asks....... to be on someones ignore list.

I found out that the same rules do apply, it does not matter if someone asks to be on the ignore list or not, we are not supposed to going against the ignore list by going to other peoples threads to talk to those on our ignore lists....

there was a reason behind why I asked... I had someone on my ignore list due to ...........their asking for me to put them on my ignore list........... then they posted to me through someone elses thread.

I did not want to violate the rules by posting to them in someone elses thread when they are on my ignore list and im assuming I was on their ignore list (why else would someone ask others to place them on ignore if they dont do it their self right.)

I was trying to get clarification of the ignore list rules before i posted in someone elses thread to the person that was on my ignore list when they asked to be on my ignore list. I reported the post in case it was a violation and I made this thread to find out what the rules are for this kind of thing.

after I posted this thread I remembered a couple posts by doc john about the ignore list so I now know my answer.

people on ignore when they know they are on ignore should not be using other peoples thread to contact the other person That covers in my mind the fact that some ask others to place them on ignore.

I now have my answer and Im glad I checked this out before replying in someone elses thread to someone on my ignore list even though it was at .....their own request........ that they are on my ignore list.
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