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Tell me, what kind of drama? It only happens online and not in school?
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Tell me, what kind of drama? It only happens online and not in school?
Thank you for asking, Happy Crafter. I don't know too many details because she and I live in different countries. Yes, she has problems with the same girls at school too. Her mother has intervened there directly by speaking with the school staff and at least one other parent. I agree with how she handled it. She didn't go in guns blazing but tried to come up with a peaceful resolution for all.

I think its basic relational aggression among the girls. Not a new phenomenon by any means. What is new is the social media aspect, as I said, us older folks were fortunate to have internet-free childhoods....it was a simpler time back then. Anyway, my niece is an only child. She gets lonely and desperately wants friends at school. One girl likes to tell the others not to be friends with her....an exclusion tactic...a little power struggle I suppose.

I have tried to encourage my niece to step back and make other friends. But she is also getting sucked into the drama. When I ask probing questions, she gets cagey sometimes so I'm not entirely sure that she's also not doing things she shouldn't. One day she told me that another girl hit her arm. I said that was not okay and needed to be shared with her mother (she did) and then I asked what happened right before she hit her arm. There was a long pause. Then she awkwardly said, "well nothing." I asked again, "so nothing was happening and then she hit you out of nowhere?" She replied: "Well, I did call her a name but it was only a joke." See what I mean? Hitting is not okay. And neither is name-calling. When I tried to indicate that to her, it did not go over very well. I also need to mind my boundaries since I am not her parent but she often does confide in me and asks my thoughts on different situations.

Anyway, I'm sure between herself and her mother they will navigate things okay. I just feel at a loss sometimes when she asks me for advice about her social media account...as far as I can tell she and the girls get into petty arguments and then one or another gets offended and cancels the account. 24 hours later its opened again and they're all good again. Repeat, repeat. It sounds exhausting and I'm not even going through it but then I don't have the energy or enthusiasm of an 11 year old!!!

By the way, I admire your candor and integrity when discussing your prior participation in trolling. It takes true depth of character to admit our challenges. Bravo! And thank you for responding. As I said, I can't give too may specifics because I don't know them. I would not say trolling is the issue but it does sound like some bullying may be going on.
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Members should not follow other members around the forums, posting right after them. It may not be trolling (depends on the content of what they post), but it certainly is creepy and unwanted behavior.

Members should also respect that we have implemented the Ignore list as a self-care tool. It is not a member's right to know why another member has placed you on their Ignore list. It is for THEIR OWN self-care. Members who have a reaction to being placed on someone else's Ignore list need to work on that issue on their own, in private, or with their therapist.

Members should also not go around starting brand new threads on the exact same topic as a thread posted by a member on their Ignore list, immediately after such a thread is begun. That is indeed trolling behavior and such members will be warned to desist from such behavior or face suspension.

Remember, seniority here doesn't mean you get to play by a different set of community guidelines. They are for ALL members, whether you've been 3 months, 3 years, or 10+ years.

If you're aware of or are concerned that another member may be "trolling" you here, please report the post/behavior to an administrator and we'll take a look into it. We are actively looking into such a situation even as we speak. Thanks.
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I am relieved to hear that your niece has a helpful and involved mom!! Poor kid though; I am sad that is happening to her.

Bullying is a huge complex problem to solve. It takes years of therapy and learning new habits.

Her mom is involved and helping her. That is huge good news!! Maybe you could steer them to articles or something online that could give them more information? Or encourage them to seek information online. Or tell them about PC? They could find support here and information that could help them.


It is so hard to refrain when we want to help our loved ones, but, if their body language says they are uncomfortable with that, we have to respect that, just like you are doing. You are wise to back off. Your input is valuable, no question there, I think she is trying to manage her anxiety by reacting how she does. Does that make sense?

Poor kid, she sounds overwhelmed. And her mom must be concerned too.
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Yes, that does make sense! Thank you Happy Crafter.
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Thank you for your kind compliments! You put a smile on my face!! xoxoxoxox
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Hi folks,

PC is the only form of social media I have ever used. I hear a lot of talk in the world about "trolling" and "internet trolls." I did some basic reading on the topic and would like to learn more.

How do you define trolling? What would be some examples of internet trolling?

Are there strategies to prevent trolling?

How should a person respond if they feel they are being trolled?

My mother told me a story about a young boy being trolled by someone in another country, a grown man pretending to be an adolescent, who tormented the poor boy so much that he ended his life. It's obviously a very sad topic but seems to be pertinent to mental health.

Would following a member around on PC....each time they create a new thread, creating duplicate threads in order to post public comments about being on their Ignore list and "not allowed" to respond to the threads...would that count as trolling?

Have you ever been trolled and would like to share your truth?

Have you ever educated children or adolescents about trolling and ways to deal with it? What did you advise? My young niece struggles with social media/posts from the girls at school. I'm not exactly sure what to tell her at times beyond just keeping her distance...but then she argues that she feels excluded if she doesn't use social media.
Yes I am being troll on YouTube for past two years all because someone didn't like my opinion on two video.
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@SilverTrees my advice is a tip my 16yo gave to my 13yo in my presence, is that in medias like SnapChat, Instagram and Twitter, use the 'mute' buttons. It's a saving face mechanism without needing to be swept under by the barrage of information.
Kids these days use a different meaning for trolling, it's about silly, over the top gestures-memes, videos, photos, but harrassing behavior is exactly what it means. That's the stuff the report buttons are for.

Trolling in discussion type forums can mean, stirring the pot, creating controversy. I think it's more prevalent in other communities.
Then there's simple rudeness, cold shoulder or attempts at being disdainful-which is more likely elsewhere, I think PC is created with more safety measures than most anywhere else.
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