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Hi folks,

PC is the only form of social media I have ever used. I hear a lot of talk in the world about "trolling" and "internet trolls." I did some basic reading on the topic and would like to learn more.

How do you define trolling? What would be some examples of internet trolling?

Are there strategies to prevent trolling?

How should a person respond if they feel they are being trolled?

My mother told me a story about a young boy being trolled by someone in another country, a grown man pretending to be an adolescent, who tormented the poor boy so much that he ended his life. It's obviously a very sad topic but seems to be pertinent to mental health.

Would following a member around on PC....each time they create a new thread, creating duplicate threads in order to post public comments about being on their Ignore list and "not allowed" to respond to the threads...would that count as trolling?

Have you ever been trolled and would like to share your truth?

Have you ever educated children or adolescents about trolling and ways to deal with it? What did you advise? My young niece struggles with social media/posts from the girls at school. I'm not exactly sure what to tell her at times beyond just keeping her distance...but then she argues that she feels excluded if she doesn't use social media.

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Hi folks,

PC is the only form of social media I have ever used. I hear a lot of talk in the world about "trolling" and "internet trolls." I did some basic reading on the topic and would like to learn more.

How do you define trolling? What would be some examples of internet trolling?

Are there strategies to prevent trolling?

How should a person respond if they feel they are being trolled?

My mother told me a story about a young boy being trolled by someone in another country, a grown man pretending to be an adolescent, who tormented the poor boy so much that he ended his life. It's obviously a very sad topic but seems to be pertinent to mental health.

Would following a member around on PC....each time they create a new thread, creating duplicate threads in order to post passive-aggressive public comments about being on their Ignore list and "not allowed" to respond to the threads...would that count as trolling?

Have you ever been trolled and would like to share your truth?

Have you ever educated children or adolescents about trolling and ways to deal with it? What did you advise?
there are many definitions of trolling. each location, culture and what have you have their own definitions...

here where I am trolling is purposely following someone on a website and posting to their posts things that purposely set out to anger and irritate them, contradicting them, attempting to start fights with them, just because their views are not the same as your own. this can also include trying to pull others into this negative behavior ie innocent bystanders seeing the troller going after a member and then trying to help ends up splitting the boards members into having to choose sides for the troller or for the one being attacked.

here on psych central this kind of thing is not allowed. in short everyone posts from their own points of view and if you dont agree you move on, or place the person on ignore list and report the offending post.

its ok to disagree but its not ok to constantly go after each other and each others posts.

I think of trolling the same as stalking.

if you find that members here are stalking and trolling your posts (constantly going after your posts in negative ways, picking fights with you, .... instead of accepting your views may be different then their own...) you can report them and their offending posts by way of a report button (report button is usually a red triangle to the left of the post What exactly is "trolling?" where you find the info on who wrote the post) the moderators will take it from there and deal with the situation privately.

and you can place that member on your ignore list by clicking on their name, which brings them to their profile, then click on the words "user lists" then select the one that says add to ignore list.

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I don’t know if you would classify this as trolling or not but there is a member who has replied to threads in the different forums I post in immediately after I post with a yawn emoticon. There are other things that have occurred as well with this member. I now have them on my ignore list but I expect that to escalate the behavior. It is quite unpleasant.

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Hi folks,

Would following a member around on PC....each time they create a new thread, creating duplicate threads in order to post public comments about being on their Ignore list and "not allowed" to respond to the threads...would that count as trolling?
I don't know if that counts as trolling or just being obsessive and harassing. I say that because trolls are doing it for fun. I have had the above example happen to me, and I've seen it happen to others. I think it's often someone who is lacking some self control, has an interaction that is bad, and then sort of obsesses, even possibly thinks they are protecting themselves. However, that behavior gets reported, usually, and handled. But it could also be trolling. Which is why it's good to report it.

I don't think simply following a member is trolling. I often read a post then look at their other comments to get some context, and that may prompt me to comment in multiple places. That's not an intent to troll them or harass them, it was sort of product of my thought process to try and get context and then finding I had something to share on those other threads as well.

Yes, I have had it happen to me. I won't share my story because it became an administrative thing to deal with, and they did deal with it, and I was very grateful.

In regards to advice about dealing with trolls: Don't feed the trolls. They thrive on interaction. If you ignore them and just continue to be positive, eventually they move on. Just do not even acknowledge their presence once you determine they are trolling. They lose interest when they can't get a rise out of you.
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no it is not trolling when other members make new threads when they find a thread that they are interested in but cant post in it because the started of the thread has them on ignore...

the ignore list is a self care feature that is so that members can take care of their own triggers but does not prevent members from having full access to the site. it is not meant for preventing members from posting on topics and posts that they want to.

think of it like in real life.... you and a friend are standing there and notice across the room a discussion with out you is taking place on a topic that you are interested in and want to take part in but you and the people over there dont get along or have different views. you dont want to be around that other person so what do you do... you start a discussion on the same topic with those you do want to talk with. its not trolling that other group of people and its not stalking. you are just carrying on a discussion about the same topic.

well the ignore feature is like that.. it doesnt prevent members from having full access to the site but yet allows those who are having a triggering day to protect their self from being exposed to their triggers. it is perfectly acceptable for members to start new threads on other discussions and explain why they are starting a second thread, even though there is one discussion going on "over there" across the room.

just like in real life someone may say hey did you hear that... over there they are talking about ......, instead of going over there lets talk about it over here I think .....

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no it is not trolling when other members make new threads when they find a thread that they are interested in but cant post in it because the started of the thread has them on ignore...

the ignore list is a self care feature that is so that members can take care of their own triggers but does not prevent members from having full access to the site. it is not meant for preventing members from posting on topics and posts that they want to.

think of it like in real life.... you and a friend are standing there and notice across the room a discussion with out you is taking place on a topic that you are interested in and want to take part in but you and the people over there dont get along or have different views. you dont want to be around that other person so what do you do... you start a discussion on the same topic with those you do want to talk with. its not trolling that other group of people and its not stalking. you are just carrying on a discussion about the same topic.

well the ignore feature is like that.. it doesnt prevent members from having full access to the site but yet allows those who are having a triggering day to protect their self from being exposed to their triggers. it is perfectly acceptable for members to start new threads on other discussions and explain why they are starting a second thread, even though there is one discussion going on "over there" across the room.

just like in real life someone may say hey did you hear that... over there they are talking about ......, instead of going over there lets talk about it over here I think .....

in other words psych central follows real life sometimes
I think if they create a new thread to respond to you, which I have had happen, then it is a breach of guidelines and circumvention of ignore. However, if they simply start a thread on the same/similar topic, then it's not. I think it's very much dependent on how they word it.
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I think if they create a new thread to respond to you, which I have had happen, then it is a breach of guidelines and circumvention of ignore. However, if they simply start a thread on the same/similar topic, then it's not. I think it's very much dependent on how they word it.
yes thats different than trolling. thats called circumventing the ignore feature and when we happen to find posts like that we are supposed to report when we find posts and threads attempting to circumvent the ignore feature. doc john has a few posts about this here in the feedback forum in threads discussing the ignore feature and what to do if we have this problem.

i was talking about members disclosing in their new threads that they are on ignore so are starting a new thread on the same topic is not called trolling but good point I forgot about that side of things.
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Are there community guidelines about publicly discussing someone else's Ignore list....suggesting that other members are punishing people by using the Ignore function?

I think it is respectful to keep that sort of thing private. When folks add me to their Ignore list, I don't feel a need to create a backlash or tell a public forum that they are tormenting me. It's a simple function on the site; not a punishment or character assessment. If folks believe that everyone on PC must respond to them and should never "ignore" them, perhaps they need a different site that does not employ an Ignore function. I don't know if there is such a site; just an idea.

I have no problem with duplicate threads that are created to simply discuss a topic of interest. What I take issue with is the creation of duplicate threads for the purpose of saying "I have to do this because I am not allowed to reply to the other thread and I am so hurt and offended...why are people so horrible to me?" etc etc

I don't believe that the creators of PC developed an Ignore function in order to torment anyone. And I do not support public call-outs of members who employ the Ignore function. The most logical response would seem to be to also add that member to your own Ignore list and move on with life.
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When I trolled or bullied strangers online, I did it because something they said set off unresolved pain I had inside me.

When I encounter trolls, I ignore them. And sometimes, I see comments I really WANT to respond to!

But, it accomplishes nothing to engage them. Plus, I worry about making them angry and then they take that out on their victims.
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When I trolled or bullied strangers online, I did it because something they said set off unresolved pain I had inside me.

When I encounter trolls, I ignore them. And sometimes, I see comments I really WANT to respond to!

But, it accomplishes nothing to engage them. Plus, I worry about making them angry and then they take that out on their victims.
Thank you Happy Crafter. Do you have advice for my 11 yo niece who struggles with drama on social media. I would not say that she is being trolled. But she gets caught up in drama with the other girls and also does not want to end her account. is there a middle ground for someone so young and emotionally immature? I'm not sure how to advise her. I did not grow up with social media...what a blessing!
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