I left the group today and my community feedback is that I felt so outnumbered in my views that I thought the group name to be misleading. Its purpose might be clarified in the name, e.g. a group for Democrats or even a place for Trump-bashing. I can handle debate, but not comments that put him down to extreme degrees like wishing it had been his helicopter that crashed. Wow what a bummer to see it. I wouldn't wish that on anyone, and I wonder if there was any expectation that right-wingers or Libertarians would join the group.

[88Butterfly88]

Anybody can join, I think just the people who are active happen to be Democrats. You could always start your own group for Republicans.

[WastingAsparagus]

I'm not in the group -- I am somewhat of an agnostic when it comes to political ideologies -- however, certain things rile me up.

I guess I'm just sharing my opinion because I can.

Political change does not come from one side hating on the other, in my opinion. I don't know if others agree with this sentiment. But it's what I believe, personally.

Maybe there's a suggestion -- try to help the threads be more balanced. I agree though, when certain buzzwords are brought up -- it's hard to respond in a reasonable way.

[DocJohn]

We cannot control who chooses to become a member of any given social group, nor can we require "balance" be maintained in such groups. We encourage members to review a group's postings before joining it, to ensure it's appropriate to the member's needs and expectations. (I understand this may not always be possible if the group is private or a closed group.)

I will remind ALL members that even in social groups, the community guidelines apply. You cannot wish harm on other people, as that is a violation of our community guidelines. Please report posts that violate these guidelines so we can take action on them. Thank you.

And one last thing -- THIS thread is not a place to debate politics. Your post will be removed if you post here arguing one political viewpoint or another.

[Travelinglady]

DocJohn and MadEnn, as a member of that group, I was disturbed by the desire for helicopter's crashing, etc., too. But it's true that most all active folks are anti this current administration and some are very vocal about it. I generally post articles and then thank people for participating. And I do lean away from anything from Fox news, I admit. It goes to the other extreme from the regular media.

Other viewpoints are welcome, with the awareness that they are not likely to be agreed with. I honestly don't think anyone will change anyone's mind. What's the difference between "discussing" and "debating," by the way?

Aren't we allowed to "discuss" things--share why we feel a certain way? Maybe it would best for someone to start another group. I wouldn't want to participate in a Trump support group--and would drop out, too.

MadEnn, I would like for us to talk in private messages, if that's okay.

[unaluna]

I dont appreciate being accused here of things i didnt say. Please dictionary google the difference between infer (which the reader does) and imply (which the writer does). Please pardon me if i am inferring an accusation that isnt here.

[Travelinglady]

MadEnn, I don't see a way to contact you. I skimmed the last post you made in the political group and it overwhelmed me at the moment. I was waiting until my brain was fresher to read it. I would like to know your viewpoint, but I might need some simplification, since I am doped up on pain meds right now. I don't even understand what a liberaterian (sp) even is-- much less how to spell it at the moment.

It's true that not everybody has said what McEnn commented on, and I perceived the ones who did were expressing their anger at the time. I don't think they could blow up a helicopter and so forth. What about the people here who want all sorts of bad things done to their abusers? (I'm just wondering what the rules really prohibit.)

Thank you, DocJohn. I first saw a thread from the group in the general "new threads" list that I wanted to reply to, but when I tried to post I was blocked by a message that said I couldn't reply unless I joined. I looked briefly at the group posts from a few years ago that included a reminder from you similar to the one you posted here, and saw that there were some issues then that I hoped were resolved. I was feeling frustrated because my post had been blocked, and I joined without the consideration I would have given it if I hadn't seen it in "new threads". The format became confusing because the posts I had read that were old seemed to be a in a more private group setup, but then when I posted the setup seemed to have been switched to the forum. I guess the group threads didn't always appear where I first tried to reply.
When I browsed the social groups list, considering joining some after creating my account, I thought it was separate and I joined my others that way. I took my time and I regret having joined the political issues discussion group the way I did, as it became a source of anxiety and I felt more hypervigilant.
I think it's important that others know about the possibility of feeling frustrated enough by blocked posts, to join groups that are inappropriate for them via "new threads".

[Travelinglady]

I agree we need to back away from things that distress us here, dear one. I do the same thing. I'm sorry the group caused you so much stress.

I was trying to be helpful in my responses, but I guess McEnn is just tuning us all out. DocJohn, would you please help me with what a group like ours specifically can and can not talk about? Thanks so much.

Originally Posted by unaluna

I dont appreciate being accused here of things i didnt say. Please dictionary google the difference between infer (which the reader does) and imply (which the writer does). Please pardon me if i am inferring an accusation that isnt here.

I'm sorry. I couldn't remember who said what about the helicopter topic, as it was mentioned within multiple postings in the context of Kobe Bryant's death. It seemed clear to me what was meant. I was depressed to see it, it was an example for this thread and my thread here is meant to express feedback abut my experience of the group, which is part of the wider PC community. It wasn't meant to accuse, I just was still especially hurt by the helicopter stuff but can't post in group anymore. I haven't remembered details, named names, tried quoting precisely or reported any posts. I also haven't expressed my feelings in the group because for me, some of the angrier posts there create an environment that's not conducive to it.

Originally Posted by Travelinglady

I agree we need to back away from things that distress us here, dear one. I do the same thing. I'm sorry the group caused you so much stress.

I was trying to be helpful in my responses, but I guess McEnn is just tuning us all out. DocJohn, would you please help me with what a group like ours specifically can and can not talk about? Thanks so much.

I'm confused by the jump from what seems to be a reply to me, then about me. Anyway, it takes me a lot of time to write my posts and while I've been writing, others are posting replies and I am behind. I'm not tuning anyone out for any particular reason. My habit is to reduce the potential damage if my accounts were to be hacked. Especially when I am new to an account, I disable contact options until I become familiar with the people, posts and community. For me it seems like common sense. I separate it from my email as much as is possible. I guess I should enable more contact in my settings. Thank you for reaching out.

[lizardlady]

Originally Posted by Travelinglady

DocJohn and MadEnn, as a member of that group, I was disturbed by the desire for helicopter's crashing, etc., too. But it's true that most all active folks are anti this current administration and some are very vocal about it. I generally post articles and then thank people for participating. And I do lean away from anything from Fox news, I admit. It goes to the other extreme from the regular media.

Other viewpoints are welcome, with the awareness that they are not likely to be agreed with. I honestly don't think anyone will change anyone's mind. What's the difference between "discussing" and "debating," by the way?

Aren't we allowed to "discuss" things--share why we feel a certain way? Maybe it would best for someone to start another group. I wouldn't want to participate in a Trump support group--and would drop out, too.

MadEnn, I would like for us to talk in private messages, if that's okay.

Excellent, balanced post Trav.

Madden, I'm sorry things said upset you. The group used to discuss broader subjects than currently, but I'd say the focus on the current administration is a reflection of the focus og society as a whole. It would seem your decision to leave the group is good self care. This site is HUGE, please use what is helpful to you and avoid that which doesn't help.

[unaluna]

For MadEnn, I asked, in the thread Trump Talk, "why doesnt his crash?"

That was not a wish for it to crash, as some have inferred. It was a simple question.

What are the differences that make the presidents frequent use of helicopters seem so safe, as compared to Kobes?

Is it terrain, weather, decision to fly - what? Everybody knows the president likes to make his own decisions, often disregarding the input of his subject experts. Is this something he could do now?

You dont know me, but i didnt ask the question to slyly express a wicked emotion. I asked the question because i honor how my brain functions. I wanted to find where the danger lay in this situation.

Please give the people of PC more credit.

[rjdb]

What irritates me is that the place shows up on "new posts". I wouldn't have a problem with the posts if I didn't have to see them al lthe time, or could ignore the group some time.

[unaluna]

Originally Posted by rjdb

What irritates me is that the place shows up on "new posts". I wouldn't have a problem with the posts if I didn't have to see them al lthe time, or could ignore the group some time.

You could ignore ALL the social group forums (in edit options), but i dont know how that would work if you ever joined one - how easy it would be to see new posts, or if you are interested in seeing new posts from social groups in general.

Originally Posted by unaluna

You could ignore ALL the social group forums (in edit options), but i dont know how that would work if you ever joined one - how easy it would be to see new posts, or if you are interested in seeing new posts from social groups in general.

I went through and selected the discussion forums I don't want to see, including the political issues discussion group, but it shows up anyway.

[rjdb]

Originally Posted by MadEnn

I went through and selected the discussion forums I don't want to see, including the political issues discussion group, but it shows up anyway.

I did the same and had the same results. Still shows up in "New Posts".

I don't have a problem with people talking politics, I just wish I didn't see it all the time. To me this place is a sanctuary.

Originally Posted by unaluna

I wanted to find where the danger lay in this situation.

Do you mean the danger for the helicopter Kobe was in? Not sure what situation you mean.

[unaluna]

Originally Posted by MadEnn

I went through and selected the discussion forums I don't want to see, including the political issues discussion group, but it shows up anyway.

I dont see a "political issues discussion group". I was referring to the last entry on the list, the social groups forums. Thats where the trump talk thread was. And dont forget to save!

Originally Posted by unaluna

I dont see a "political issues discussion group". I was referring to the last entry on the list, the social groups forums. Thats where the trump talk thread was. And dont forget to save!

Yes that's the one, the whole social groups forums category is the one I checked because it doesn't let you mark the subs. Saved and the threads show up anyway.