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Default Mar 22, 2019 at 08:39 AM
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What is with everyone's obsession with instances, anyway? Nothing I know came from instances; everything I have learned I know from generalized principles. I only memorized times tables for the sake of speed; every math function and every other fact of life I know from generic instruction, not specific example. Details are just useless noise and people who obsess over meaningless details are toxic.

If you're asking for "concrete instances", you'll never be in the right mindset to "visualize" or understand anything about me or what I've been through. My life is a life without meaningless, resource-sapping detail.
People are asking for examples because you cite some very extreme reasons. "Being killed" people out to kill you...those are extreme. Knowing why you say these things or at least an experience helps us better understand. Its not useless noise.

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Default Mar 22, 2019 at 03:55 PM
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People are asking for examples because you cite some very extreme reasons. "Being killed" people out to kill you...those are extreme. Knowing why you say these things or at least an experience helps us better understand. Its not useless noise.

I find it ironic that people consider "extreme" what they themselves made common.

Someone threatened to throw me off a balcony in front of witnesses because they thought I was a threat to their girlfriend. That's the only outstanding incident I clearly remember, and that's the depth of detail that I remember for it. This was during college.
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Default Mar 30, 2019 at 10:58 AM
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((TheUrOther)), it's very hard when a person is struggling so badly that they can't even share the "episodic". You are reflecting a person that has NEVER experienced a presence that was concerning and helpful with you. This can most definitely lead to feeling that because no one helped you that everyone is failing you. I don't want to disrespect that imense hurt you are experiencing.

My concern is that you have so much anger that you may harm someone who really doesn't deserve it, either someone else or yourself. When a person chooses to act out their anger and resentment, it doesn't do anything to "help" the problem you loath so much, and more than often it can make it even worse.
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Default Mar 30, 2019 at 08:38 PM
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You are reflecting a person that has NEVER experienced a presence that was concerning and helpful with you. This can most definitely lead to feeling that because no one helped you that everyone is failing you. I don't want to disrespect that imense hurt you are experiencing.
What conclusion can one logically derive from a life where zero people demonstrated "a presence that was concerning and helpful with you" other than any future person will also refuse to be "concerning and helpful"? There is NO evidence to suggest that a future person will behave in any way different than people in the past, especially given the near-perfect consistency of behavior and complete and perfect absence of dissenting behavior. If every sample of a group taken has the same characteristics over a large enough number of samples, it is safe to assume all members of that group have the same characteristics. If one pulls one-thousand wooden cubes out of a bag and all of the cubes pulled are red, it makes logical sense to assume all future cubes pulled out of that bag will also be red.

On top of that, the cost of having to deal with a differing person has now exceeded any possible gain I could derive from that person being different. Every new person injures me, no matter their behavior.

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My concern is that you have so much anger that you may harm someone who really doesn't deserve it, either someone else or yourself. When a person chooses to act out their anger and resentment, it doesn't do anything to "help" the problem you loath so much, and more than often it can make it even worse.
Humanity had forty years of opportunity to earn the right to not be harmed, and it refused to take advantage of that opportunity. Humanity chose to deserve punishment of its own free will. By refusing me any excuses for not living up to their impossible standards, humanity has painted itself into a corner it cannot get out of - I am forcing them to deal with the unreasonable standards they enforced upon me, and as such there are no and can be no person who "doesn't deserve it". There is no excuse anyone can make for humanity that they have not denied me, therefore they likewise must be denied such an excuse. You cannot allow humanity to successfully exercise a double-standard or they will exercise double-standards against everyone, and the very concepts of healthy human interaction become a farce. If they are not punished now, they will never treat another human being in a healthy manner - they'll never have an incentive to.

The only way to make sure people treat others in a non-toxic manner is to punish them when they behave toxically. They have no incentive to behave well otherwise.
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Any information about abuse by parents with PTSD?

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I myself have Complex PTSD from being abused by my parents and community. I have reason to believe at least one of my parents may have also suffered some form of PTSD from an event in their life. I was wondering if anyone knew if there was information about the children of people who inflict their PTSD on them. I know a lot of child abuse comes from narcissistic parents, but I don't think either of my parents were narcissists - their behavior doesn't match up to the symptoms.

Does anyone here know of any articles, etc. regarding the effects of PTSD-afflicted parents willingly abusing their children?
I admit I have not read the whole thread, but both my parents have PTSD. My mother has cPTSD and my biological father has combat-related PTSD (supposedly). They both inflicted abuse on me and were very violent, I suspect as a result of each of their disorders. I have cPTSD myself (diagnosed).

I am interested to see if you found any articles.

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My condolences; and I'm sorry I have not found anything.

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