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I compare the development of knowledge of human psychology to that of the physical sciences. Before they got to the stage they are now, very similar things took place in our understanding of the physical world. Vast confusion and major controversies. Now understanding of human psychology needs comparable development. It can happen. It seems to be happening. In fits and starts. Very slowly. We are working on it here. Quote:
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__________________ Now if thou would'st When all have given him o'er From death to life Thou might'st him yet recover -- Michael Drayton 1562 - 1631 Last edited by pachyderm; Jul 08, 2018 at 10:16 AM.. |
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I wouldn't read too much into that article, it has some useful points and was eye opening in some respects, but is also making a number of assumptions and claims I am not sure I would agree with or are supportable by the evidence myself (eg all CPTSD depression is 'reactive' on a biochemical level). It's trying to draw too clearcut a distinction between 'mental illness' and 'psychiatric injury' when I think in reality it is hard to draw a line between the two and as the article itself says many people with CPTSD will have been given mental illness diagnoses at some point even if it is arguably erroneous so they certainly will have a mental illness history. I have a long history of depression and GAD, OCD and various other mental health symptoms; the diagnosis of CPTSD helps tie them all together in a way that makes sense in the context of my personal history, and accounts for other symptoms like diminished future and startle reflex that I couldn't make sense of before. Personally I think a lot of things that get classed as mental illness are the result of trauma in various forms and don't buy into the heavily reductionist pseudo scientific theories medical model psychiatrists espouse. It's also important not to confuse symptoms with 'disease entities' - psychiatry tends to conflate them far too readily.
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So, then I probably do have CPTSD. I did thirteen years straight, from age 20 to 33, after spending 3 years fighting in court. So yeah...most of my formative years. But then...maybe I should just suffer in silence and accept it because I put myself there, right?
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__________________ Now if thou would'st When all have given him o'er From death to life Thou might'st him yet recover -- Michael Drayton 1562 - 1631 |
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Thanks for sharing the link
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I was actually 16, almost 17, but the DA and the detective fudged numbers to get me into adult court, the judge knew my mother's ex-friend and didn't recuse herself, and I had a public pretender who didn't care that there was a huge conflict of interest with the pre-sentence investigation...eh. The list goes on and on but I did what I did, so I guess PTSD/CPTSD/Whatever Else for the rest of my life is part of the sentence.
I really feel like that abrogates any claim/right to therapy and treatment, too, and that really just seems to encourage thoughts about very lethal forms of self-destruction and how those thoughts are justified. Ha, what do I have to worry about from other people when nothing anyone can do to me can compare to the things I do to myself? All a part of the Pattern... I'll see myself out of the thread, don't worry. |
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(((Michael))), there is no reason for you to not share here and you deserve to heal just like everyone else struggling does. Don't give into the negative messages you say to yourself either. 16 years old is VERY young and extremely naive and prone to making bad choices because of being so young yet.
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Thank you for sharing this. I have been diagnosed with GAD as well, but I'm learning that I actually have c-ptsd. I look forward to reading this article.
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__________________ When a child’s emotional needs are not met and a child is repeatedly hurt and abused, this deeply and profoundly affects the child’s development. Wanting those unmet childhood needs in adulthood. Looking for safety, protection, being cherished and loved can often be normal unmet needs in childhood, and the survivor searches for these in other adults. This can be where survivors search for mother and father figures. Transference issues in counseling can occur and this is normal for childhood abuse survivors. |
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Yeah this is one reason I do Yoga and Relational embodied therapy - in different ways they both work on my armouring.
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That's one thing I haven't done yet, although I have considered it I'm very uneasy with being touched, particularly for prolonged periods, in certain places, and by someone I don't know.
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I read the article on The Mighty. It made more sense to me.
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The Mighty article is the most simplified description of me that I have found so far.
I relate very strongly with each symptom except for the loss of faith. That is the only thing that has held me together. Thank you for posting it here. I also sent it to my counselor. __________________ "What is denied, cannot be healed." - Brennan Manning "Hope knows that if great trials are avoided, great deeds remain undone and the possibility of growth into greatness of soul is aborted." - Brennan Manning |
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I don't know about the hypervigilance, but I remember hating school because I hated being around other people I didn't know and worried way too much about what others think of me. There was also a lot of other stuff going on at the time, too...
As for loss of faith, yeah, been there, done that. It turned into a full-fledged phobia of death and dying. How do you overcome something like that with exposure therapy? Go Flatliners? There's literally no cure for such a phobia, and there's nothing someone can say to alieviate the reality of the situation. That in turn, turned into an obsession and that in turn has lead down some rather odd (and dark) paths. When it first happened, I just sort of gave up everything and sank itnto a sort of stupor. I would wake up, stare at the wall all day, and then go to sleep. I remember almost nothing from those six weeks other than someone occasionally knocking at the door, which I would ignore. I lost 22 pounds from not eating at all. It was only because I was nearly force-fed and dragged out of my house by people I knew to get me to snap out of it that I did, and for weeks after, I remember feelling the pull of that stuporous sort of limbo, calling me back. And I would often catch myself sort of drifting down into it again every so often. Feels like those times are coming back because it's really just getting to be too much. |
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Thanks for this info, OE. Seesaw __________________ What if I fall? Oh, my dear, but what if you fly? Primary Dx: C-PTSD and Severe Chronic Treatment Resistant Major Depressive Disorder Secondary Dx: Generalized Anxiety Disorder with mild Agoraphobia. Meds I've tried: Prozac, Zoloft, Celexa, Effexor, Remeron, Elavil, Wellbutrin, Risperidone, Abilify, Prazosin, Paxil, Trazadone, Tramadol, Topomax, Xanax, Propranolol, Valium, Visteril, Vraylar, Selinor, Clonopin, Ambien Treatments I've done: CBT, DBT, Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS), Talk therapy, psychotherapy, exercise, diet, sleeping more, sleeping less... |
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