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I wonder if anyone has any experience of this, ie the similarities between these states of being?
I have CPTSD from child abuse and am attempting to be a fiction writer (it's not a new thing. This has pretty much always been a useful escape for me). I keep looking at this list (below). During fiction writing, I suppose identity can disappear completely. But memory doesn't. Trauma gives one excellent recall! Consciousness? I don't know about that. Awareness of surroundings... Extremely low. But self, yes. I am intensely connected to all the past me's. This is one of the definitions of dissociation: - Dissociation disrupts four areas of personal functioning that usually operate together smoothly, automatically, and with few or no problems: Identity Memory Consciousness Self-awareness and awareness of surroundings "Breaks" in this system of automatic functions within yourself cause the symptoms of dissociation. Last edited by Purple,Violet,Blue; Feb 12, 2020 at 02:41 PM.. |
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Thanks, Fuzzy. I was just thinking out loud, really. On Monday, I found it really hard to get out of the dissociative state I'd been in on my day off (writing). Thought I must have taken a double dose of my meds by mistake, but no. It's not the same as sleepiness...
I had to leave work early, and sleep when I got home. Normally, I flick in and out of the creative state. Working full time, I have to use breaks, the train journey and so on. But this time, I could not get out of it. Weird. Thanks for listening! |
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Hi Purple,
I know you posted this a while ago, but it is a very interesting question. Would you be willing to elaborate more on what you mean by 'flicking in and out' of a creative state? I do this as well, but it is not as voluntary as I wish it would be! I found a neat study about the connection between disassociation and creativity, postulating the link through the lens of the sleep-wake cycle. I can't provide the URL until I have more posts, but it is titled "Imagining the impossible before breakfast: the relation between creativity, dissociation, and sleep," if you'd like to give it a read. I could spend a long time contemplating all the threads that weave into this topic. For example, how divergent thinking, also strongly linked with creative states, might figure into disassociation; or how the concept of 'flow' mimics dissociative states. In any case, it definitely seems related, and I'd love to hear more of your experience with it, if you are okay with sharing. |
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Hmmm, that sounds facinating bide, I would really appreciate it if you can get enough posts in if you remember to post the link here. I would like to read it.
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Will do, @Open Eyes. (that is one post down!)
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Did not finish reading all of it. It's very technical and something that may be better digested if read in portions.
I was interested because when I was younger and would work on a painting or something artistic often I zoned out and whatever I did just flowed out of me as though a part of me just took over and did the painting or whatever I was creating for me. |
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It discusses dreaming and wakefulness as a cognitive continuum that explains states such as identity loss, loss of environmental awareness, and highly associative thinking as part of the dream state that enhances 'flow' and 'creativity'. This theory could be tweaked a bit, being oversimplified, but still seems to make some intuitive sense for the question about the relationship between disassociation and artistic expression. The bits that catch my attention the most: Quote:
Once, I painted a copy of 'Girl with a Pearl Earring' as an exercise, but I zoned out while doing it... her face ended up looking like mine when I was a young child, with a level of accuracy and detail that didn't seem possible without a reference. It made me wonder how much 'sensory' information I'm storing without knowing it. I'm still hoping @Purple,Violet,Blue will see this and find some time to reply. |
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Well, I definitely experience a similar thing. I seem to switch in and out of these distinct moods, and I find that I can only do certain activities while in each mood. I also do a lot of writing (mainly fiction), and I find that unless I'm in my creative mood, I can't get anything out. I also have a social mood and an exhausted mood. These last two moods can get very extreme, like so exhausted that I can barely move my body (and spend the whole day in bed, not even watching TV or anything--just lying down) or so energetic that I CANNOT sit still. Sometimes these moods last days, and sometimes they last hours. I don't seem to have any control over which mood I slip into, but it always seems to be one of these three (quiet and creative, social and energetic, or exhausted and sad). Although I can't consciously pick out which zone I'm in, they do tend to be triggered by external events (most of the time). If something exciting happened, I tend to slip into my social mood; if past trauma gets triggered, I exclusively slip into my exhausted state (at least once the initial hypersensitive/paranoid/jumpy state goes away). I don't know if other people experience something similar, but I'd be really interested to find out.
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