advertisement
Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
Anonymous40099
Guest
Anonymous40099 has no updates. Edit
 
Posts: n/a
Trig Jul 11, 2019 at 06:17 PM
  #1
I feel like I am in a prison in this life. I was put in it involuntarily because my parents decided to have me and wanted to be happy by all of this natural feelings that come with a new born or have a meaning for their lives, and then was asked to accept its misery and until you die. I see my death as a liberation, but also too scared of it if that makes sense.
  Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
 
Hugs from:
Anonymous43949, Misery Business, stahrgeyzer, TunedOut
 
Thanks for this!
stahrgeyzer

advertisement
stahrgeyzer
Magnate
stahrgeyzer has no updates.
 
Member Since: Feb 2018
Location: southern california
Posts: 2,238
5 yr Member
5,559 hugs
given
PC PoohBah!
Default Jul 11, 2019 at 08:02 PM
  #2
I've have these thoughts a lot as well. All existence is probably a prison. My liberation will be when I move to the forest far away from humans.
stahrgeyzer is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
 
Hugs from:
Anonymous40099, Anonymous43949
Anonymous48672
Guest
Anonymous48672 has no updates. Edit
 
Posts: n/a
Default Jul 12, 2019 at 12:31 PM
  #3
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nxious View Post
I feel like I am in a prison in this life. I was put in it involuntarily because my parents decided to have me and wanted to be happy by all of this natural feelings that come with a new born or have a meaning for their lives, and then was asked to accept its misery and until you die. I see my death as a liberation, but also too scared of it if that makes sense.
Nxious, have you read the Nihilists?

I vacillate between Nihilism, Absurdism, and Existentialism and I'm nearly 50. I knew from a young age, that I was a non-conformist and trying to find my place in the world as someone who doesn't like to conform has been a painful experience only because I kept trying to "fit in" to systems that I don't believe in, rather than embrace my non-conformity and flourish.

I see the same thing happening to you. I highly recommend reading up on those three philosophy types until you find the one that resonates with your life the best. Then, embrace it, and try to find outlets that also embrace the philosophy that informs your life. Albert Camus is one of my favorite writers.

Quote:
Existentialism is the belief that through a combination of awareness, free will, and personal responsibility, one can construct their own meaning within a world that intrinsically has none of its own.

Nihilism is the belief that not only is there no intrinsic meaning in the universe, but that it’s pointless to try to construct our own as a substitute.

Absurdism is the belief that a search for meaning is inherently in conflict with the actual lack of meaning, but that one should both accept this and simultaneously rebel against it by embracing what life has to offer.

And...

Quote:
The religious believe that meaning was imbued into the universe by a supreme being, that this knowledge is available to us via one or more texts, and that it’s our responsibility to go learn about it.

Existentialists may or may not agree that religions speak to real/discoverable meaning, but they believe that people can make their own meaning that wouldn’t be any less real than what religion offers.

Nihilists believe/know not just that religion is false—i.e., that there is no built-in meaning in the universe waiting to be discovered—but that any meaning we try to build for ourselves will not be “real” either. It’ll just be a construct of our own minds that we pretend has the gravity of religious meaning.

Absurdism is the unifier: it accepts that we seem to function best with some sort of religious belief in our lives, but that science has shown the nihilists are right about both revealed meaning and constructed meaning. As a result, many choose to use some parts of a meaning structure—either borrowed or constructed—to get the human benefits thereof, but without relaxing so far that they start believing it’s true.

Knowing where one stands among—or perhaps outside—these options is a crucial part of self-understanding.
  Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Anonymous40099
Guest
Anonymous40099 has no updates. Edit
 
Posts: n/a
Default Jul 12, 2019 at 03:14 PM
  #4
Conformity is something I've struggled with all my life. I have difficulty accepting how the world works, that I need to be someone else to fit in, and this someone else is fake.

I heard about Nihilism and Existentialism but not Absurdism. I was told I have existential crisis, which is probably true. But I think I agree with the Anti-Natalism philosophy in that it is better never to have been, and that life is just full of suffering and bringing children to this world is a mistake. It doesn't treat how one should live, though, as far as I understand. Which is to say, OK, I was born and I cannot do anything about it, and I suffer and experience pain all my life and then die, but we have control to decide not to bring children to this world, and be part of perpetuating the suffering and pain. It's about self-imposed extinction. Many people don't like this view. This comes down to something I asked about in another thread: why people have a strong desire to live despite the suffering and pain? What makes people tick? It's a mystery to me. I feel I am missing something others have. I am afraid of death and poverty and would like to be acknowledged, but this isn't enough for me to strive to live and be better!!
  Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
 
Hugs from:
Anonymous48672
Anonymous48672
Guest
Anonymous48672 has no updates. Edit
 
Posts: n/a
Default Jul 12, 2019 at 05:41 PM
  #5
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nxious View Post
I feel I am missing something others have. I am afraid of death and poverty and would like to be acknowledged, but this isn't enough for me to strive to live and be better!!
Reframe that first sentence. Since everyone is unique -- down to their genetic DNA -- you aren't missing anything anyone else has -- maybe companionship? But you have your own unique gifts and talents and insights to contribute to this world should you choose to. Right? You have something to offer!

If you want to be part of a group, because you feel lonely or isolated, that I can empathize with. Then, it makes sense to say that you feel are you missing something others have -- camaraderie. We all need camaraderie in our lives, no matter who we are or what we believe.

To be alone is to suffer. I've always had a hard time staying with a social group. I don't know why, but I don't suffer fools well, and I hate cliques. So, I'm not good with social cliques. I have been alone for about a decade and have fringe acquaintances that I contact when my loneliness reaches unbearable levels. Otherwise, I'm alone ALL THE TIME and have adjusted to it. It's bizarre. But that's how my life turned out.

I think your fears of death and poverty are shared by 99% of the population on earth. Including myself.

I do agree with your opinion that people should abstain from having more babies. At this point, the human species has overpopulated the planet ten-fold, and continues to desecrate the natural world to our own downfall. Oceans of plastic, non-existent rainforests, wildlife starving to death b/c humans have destroyed their food sources and ecosystems. Humans are a plague on the earth. But I digress...

That is to say; sounds like you found your philosophy with anti-natalism. I encourage you to read up on Absurdism. Also, a fun book I recommend reading, "Confederacy of Dunces." Ignatius Reilly will inspire you. That's one of my FAVORITE books with a protagonist who is definitely an absurdist.
  Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:16 AM.
Powered by vBulletin® — Copyright © 2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.



 

My Support Forums

My Support Forums is the online community that was originally begun as the Psych Central Forums in 2001. It now runs as an independent self-help support group community for mental health, personality, and psychological issues and is overseen by a group of dedicated, caring volunteers from around the world.

 

Helplines and Lifelines

The material on this site is for informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment provided by a qualified health care provider.

Always consult your doctor or mental health professional before trying anything you read here.