Furious

giddykitty · Jan 01, 2020 at 07:13 PM

or sad or...??? scared maybe? no, probably sad...or both. But in this moment, I'm feeling furious at my husband because he keeps lecturing me on ways to lose weight and that I need to lose weight for my health...I forgot what else I said in the other thread about this... oh, well, that the lectures don't help because I have x,y, z reasons why his "solutions" don't work for me. and he says i have no willpower to stop binging or to start weight lifting. For me to lose weight, I'd have to cut back/exercise a ton to make any difference and it just doesn't seem feasible to me! I don't know what to do!! Any thoughts? Anyone feel the same?? Anyone have any strategies? (don't worry, i won't scream down your throat, just maybe you have better suggestions) BTW, I'm on Zoloft and Clonazapam right now. Not sure if these contribute to weight gain and/or to trouble losing weight. I go from birth control pills to this stuff...

i'm damn depressed by this and feel like I need the antidepressants more than ever now living with this ongoing annoying lectures/whathaveyou. Ugh!

Jan 01, 2020 at 07:25 PM

YES.

But I think the drugs may contribute.

Have you looked into Keto or Intermittent fasting. Or the insulin theory of weight loss? Basically it says that in the presence of insulin you will never be able to lose weight. Losing weight is only possible when insulin is gone. Calories in Calories out allows for small periods but it always ends in gaining it back because your body has mechanisms to make you gain in back.

I am SOOO tried of people telling me weight loss is easy. Yes, if I had 4 hours per day to spend in the gym and every meal I made I could make from scratch, I could be thin. But those things are not available to me and NO I can't remember to premake all my meals before work every day.

giddykitty · Jan 01, 2020 at 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Emily Fox Seaton

YES.

But I think the drugs may contribute.

Have you looked into Keto or Intermittent fasting. Or the insulin theory of weight loss? Basically it says that in the presence of insulin you will never be able to lose weight. Losing weight is only possible when insulin is gone. Calories in Calories out allows for small periods but it always ends in gaining it back because your body has mechanisms to make you gain in back.

I am SOOO tried of people telling me weight loss is easy. Yes, if I had 4 hours per day to spend in the gym and every meal I made I could make from scratch, I could be thin. But those things are not available to me and NO I can't remember to premake all my meals before work every day.

Well, my husband is suggesting intermittent fasting. Keto might be hard for me because I don't eat peanuts or dairy for fat (I mean I can eat other nuts and avacodo, but that's expensive, oh and my primary breakfast consists of cereal (plus the nuts)) I'm briefly familiar with the insulin theory. Not sure how to find out if it applies to me (and this was only recently I heard about it). I believe this makes it hard or impossible? To lose weight... it's definitely not easy As my husband seems to think. :/

Thanks for replying!

giddykitty · Jan 01, 2020 at 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Emily Fox Seaton

YES.

But I think the drugs may contribute.

Have you looked into Keto or Intermittent fasting. Or the insulin theory of weight loss? Basically it says that in the presence of insulin you will never be able to lose weight. Losing weight is only possible when insulin is gone. Calories in Calories out allows for small periods but it always ends in gaining it back because your body has mechanisms to make you gain in back.

I am SOOO tried of people telling me weight loss is easy. Yes, if I had 4 hours per day to spend in the gym and every meal I made I could make from scratch, I could be thin. But those things are not available to me and NO I can't remember to premake all my meals before work every day.

Ok, so a Google search didn't give much help on the insulin theory, and what I did find was that neither low carb nor low fat diets have conclusively been proven to show continued weight loss. I dunno! I'm just confused altogether! Sigh!

Jan 01, 2020 at 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by giddykitty

Not sure how to find out if it applies to me (and this was only recently I heard about it). I believe this makes it hard or impossible? To lose weight... it's definitely not easy As my husband seems to think. :/

Dr. Jason Fung really explains these things well. Try You tube or his website called the fasting method. My favorites on You tube are Dr. Bozz and Slim Land.

I am also unsure if I can do Keto. So I am just going to try to do as low carb as possible and fast.

Also you can check out the intermittent fasting board on Reditt to ask questions.

For 4 weeks now, I have been doing it. And I only lost 4 lbs. I am doing 20 hours fasting and four hours eating most days and every Sunday / Monday a 36 hour fast.

I am taking a break because I got a head cold.

giddykitty · Jan 01, 2020 at 11:05 PM

I'm going to try the fasting thing tonight, but only do like 12 or 14 or maybe even 16 hours. The thing is is that I have to take aspirin in that time period and I'm also worried that I won't sleep through the night if I get hungry. I also ate small lunch and dinner...so we will see how it goes.

giddykitty · Jan 02, 2020 at 12:30 AM

Ugh! I'm already starting to feel hungry. :/ I'm going to bed just as soon as this movie finishes...hope I can sleep. I'm so pissed and determined to try this! Ugh! So many emotions!

sarahsweets · Jan 02, 2020 at 04:22 AM

I am sorry you are going through this with your husband. Is he mean to you about weight loss?

giddykitty · Jan 02, 2020 at 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by sarahsweets

I am sorry you are going through this with your husband. Is he mean to you about weight loss?

He's coming from a place of love. He's just concerned that I'll have problems in the future with my health if I don't get my weight in check. He keeps nagging because he said that by not doing so, I wasn't doing anything. But I was! Its just not enough. :/

giddykitty · Jan 02, 2020 at 09:44 AM

Oh, so yeah, it's morning now. I made it through the night! Well, sorta. It's about 8 (well 840) rn, so that only makes a 12 (13ish) hour fast, but I ate so less yesterday. The interesting thing is I slept like 8 hours when lately I'd been sleeping 10 or so hours (and before that, 12hrs), so, you know, maybe eating so much or so close to bed was making me sleep more and gain more! I dunno. We will see how this fasting thing effects my weight. I've fasted before and I don't recall losing much weight/fat...but, I'm doing this at different hours now. Might work better.

giddykitty · Jan 02, 2020 at 05:14 PM

Well, I took a nap And am now eating at 4. Which will b good if i eat dinner at 8/9. But I was hungry before the nap...how am I going to do this every day without a nap? Or will i have to do a daily nAp? Ahhh i dunno!

Jan 02, 2020 at 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by giddykitty

Well, I took a nap And am now eating at 4. Which will b good if i eat dinner at 8/9. But I was hungry before the nap...how am I going to do this every day without a nap? Or will i have to do a daily nAp? Ahhh i dunno!

It gets easier as you go along. As they say you get Fat adapted...your body starts to burn your fat stores. Once that happens you are less hungry.

*Beth* · Jan 02, 2020 at 06:06 PM

Zoloft definitely causes weight gain. It did for me, and I know others (especially women) who gained weight from Zoloft. For one thing, it increases estrogen...which increases weight gain.

I do not like it that your husband nags you about losing weight. It's cruel and it's dangerous. And I'll tell you what, stress raises cortisol and elevated cortisol contributes to weight gain.

If you say to your husband, "Hey, I want to lose some weight. Can you help me out by not encouraging me to eat (weight gaining foods)?" and he agrees in a supportive, loving manner - great.

But to imply that you should be guilty for eating *whatever* - uh-uh. That is not cool in the least. It is not okay for him to tell you to fast, to starve yourself, or whatever. Because he's making your body his issue and that is BS.

giddykitty · Jan 02, 2020 at 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BethRags

Zoloft definitely causes weight gain. It did for me, and I know others (especially women) who gained weight from Zoloft. For one thing, it increases estrogen...which increases weight gain.

I do not like it that your husband nags you about losing weight. It's cruel and it's dangerous. And I'll tell you what, stress raises cortisol and elevated cortisol contributes to weight gain.

If you say to your husband, "Hey, I want to lose some weight. Can you help me out by not encouraging me to eat (weight gaining foods)?" and he agrees in a supportive, loving manner - great.

But to imply that you should be guilty for eating *whatever* - uh-uh. That is not cool in the least. It is not okay for him to tell you to fast, to starve yourself, or whatever. Because he's making your body his issue and that is BS.

Thanks for saying this. At least i know I'm not crazy in being upset. I've even mentioned something along the lines of the stress/cortisol, but over his head it goes. I'm also glad to hear that it could still be the meds. I went off Abilify because of suspected weight gain (and plus I probably maybe don't actually have bipolar afterall. I dunno), but yea I still didn't lose as much as I gained. I don't think I can go off the AD though. I'm going to talk to my doctor about my husband saying these things. The bottom line though is that he never used to be like this. In fact, he was quite the opposite! But his family is getting in his head because they worry due to the fact that they've had health problems due to weight and just don't want to see me go through that path. Sigh!

giddykitty · Jan 03, 2020 at 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Emily Fox Seaton

It gets easier as you go along. As they say you get Fat adapted...your body starts to burn your fat stores. Once that happens you are less hungry.

ahh, sorry I didn't see this before! Good to know!

So I was thinking that since I'm being proactive now, I'm not really "furious" (although I still don't know if hubby is right in nagging me.) Anyway, I'm going to use this thread as my journal and keep trying the fasting thing...although it's later now and I am not really hungry, but i might get hungry again by midnight/bedtime. (shhh brain! reread the quote!) Alright. I'll stick to water. Wish me luck!

Buffy01 · Jan 10, 2020 at 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by giddykitty

or sad or...??? scared maybe? no, probably sad...or both. But in this moment, I'm feeling furious at my husband because he keeps lecturing me on ways to lose weight and that I need to lose weight for my health...I forgot what else I said in the other thread about this... oh, well, that the lectures don't help because I have x,y, z reasons why his "solutions" don't work for me. and he says i have no willpower to stop binging or to start weight lifting. For me to lose weight, I'd have to cut back/exercise a ton to make any difference and it just doesn't seem feasible to me! I don't know what to do!! Any thoughts? Anyone feel the same?? Anyone have any strategies? (don't worry, i won't scream down your throat, just maybe you have better suggestions) BTW, I'm on Zoloft and Clonazapam right now. Not sure if these contribute to weight gain and/or to trouble losing weight. I go from birth control pills to this stuff...

i'm damn depressed by this and feel like I need the antidepressants more than ever now living with this ongoing annoying lectures/whathaveyou. Ugh!

I completely understand how you feel. I had problem gaining weight and struggle a lot. Sometimes you can do all you can and never lose the weight. Concentrate on eating healthy you will go far. Sometimes walking around outside is all you need I hope that this help.

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giddykitty Grand Poohbah Member Since Jan 2018 Location: United States Posts: 1,639 6 3,229 hugs given	Jan 01, 2020 at 11:05 PM #6 I'm going to try the fasting thing tonight, but only do like 12 or 14 or maybe even 16 hours. The thing is is that I have to take aspirin in that time period and I'm also worried that I won't sleep through the night if I get hungry. I also ate small lunch and dinner...so we will see how it goes.
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giddykitty Grand Poohbah Member Since Jan 2018 Location: United States Posts: 1,639 6 3,229 hugs given	Jan 02, 2020 at 12:30 AM #7 Ugh! I'm already starting to feel hungry. :/ I'm going to bed just as soon as this movie finishes...hope I can sleep. I'm so pissed and determined to try this! Ugh! So many emotions!
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sarahsweets Threadtastic Postaholic Member Since Dec 2018 Location: New Jersey Posts: 6,006 (SuperPoster!) 5 192 hugs given	Jan 02, 2020 at 04:22 AM #8 I am sorry you are going through this with your husband. Is he mean to you about weight loss? __________________ "I carried a watermelon?" President of the no F's given society.
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giddykitty Grand Poohbah Member Since Jan 2018 Location: United States Posts: 1,639 6 3,229 hugs given	Jan 02, 2020 at 05:14 PM #11 Well, I took a nap And am now eating at 4. Which will b good if i eat dinner at 8/9. But I was hungry before the nap...how am I going to do this every day without a nap? Or will i have to do a daily nAp? Ahhh i dunno!
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