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Default Feb 26, 2020 at 07:04 PM
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So as many of you all know I have been complaining of a bad back for 3 months and afraid of scoliosis getting worse.

It isn't scoliosis. (though no one knows if it is related to the back pain)

My doctor decided to run some tests on my blood this week and she found something. Monoclonal gammopathy of undetermined significance (MGUS). Though my doctor tells me it is a benign condition precursor with a 1% chance per year of it changing into multiple myeloma. A simple look at the statistics tells me that is wrong. (just what they tell you) And that it is more like you will probably get multiple myeloma within 2 years of MGUS diagnosis.

Ok well, then I looked up multiple myeloma and even multiple myeloma is caught and treated early best case lifespan... 7 years. SEVEN YEARS!

I have an appointment with an oncologist this Friday (another concerning thing as that seems quickly to get me in) And I understand they will be determining how likely it is going become multiple myeloma based on the tests.

Honestly to me it seems like I just got diagnosed with multiple myeloma. And I have as little as 7 years left to live and frankly probably won't make it past 15.

This was my greatest fear... that I would spend my entire life working hard to get to retirement only to diet moments after retirement. (retirement is 10 years away)

I am obviously terrified. There is no curing Monoclonal gammopathy of undetermined significance (MGUS). From this day forward I will always have to check this to make sure it isn't progressing. And if it is, the options aren't great.

And also, from all accounts I am young for this. Most people diagnosed with this are significantly older. Is that why this condition doesn't progress easily?

Also what I can see is that being over weight is a risk factor for progression. So right now, I need to lose 50 lbs. Right now.!! Also, eating animal protein is a risk factor (and I have been doing that my entire life) and so, I have to pretty much go vegan. And all of this is made more difficult with an aching back.

The only positive thing is that this was found early. My doctor found it because multiple myeloma is known to cause back pain and increased calcium (which my most recent tests had). But a calcium test in December was low.

There are no symptoms usually with Monoclonal gammopathy of undetermined significance (MGUS).

Seriously if you have made it this far I need your support, I have no one to tell.
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Default Feb 26, 2020 at 07:34 PM
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Ugh I have to stop looking at the internet. I went to a message board on this and yes.. yes, Monoclonal gammopathy of undetermined significance (MGUS). can cause back pain. I am fearful that means it is pretty advanced. But yes... a lot of people report fibromyalgia type symptoms with it.

So am I going to spend the next 10 years ALSO in back pain?
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Default Feb 26, 2020 at 08:02 PM
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You have my support. I'm sorry I don't have any answers to your Q's, but it must be scary and unsettling.

Its good they caught it early.

Try to do things you enjoy in between freak outs. Worrying won't solve anything. Though I understand it's hard not to do.
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Default Feb 26, 2020 at 08:32 PM
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I got my doctor to give me the base results and to me, they look good.

ALPHA 1 GLOBULIN 0.1 - 0.3 g/dL .... 0.2 (this seems normal)
ALPHA 2 GLOBULIN 0.5 - 1.0 g/dL .... 0.8 (this seems normal)
BETA GLOBULIN 0.8 - 1.4 g/dL ....1.1 (again normal)
GAMMA GLOBULIN 0.5 - 1.8 g/dL ..... 1.0 (again normal)
TOTAL PROTEIN 6.0 - 8.9 g/dL.... 7.6 6.9 (I can't tell what this is but seems normal)
GAMMA 1 M-SPIKE <=0 g/dL ... 0.3 High (these are both flagged as high but they seem VERY close to normal -- which is <=0)
GAMMA 2 M-SPIKE <=0 g/dL ... 0.2 High

The information she gave me was that greater than 3 g/dl was a flag for cancer and greater than 1.5 was concerning.
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Default Feb 26, 2020 at 10:47 PM
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I didnt see the 7 year thing. I saw that it was pretty rare for it to get bad, and that they monitor it, and that maybe you'll go on fosomax or something like that.

I think you are stuck with us, and vice versa!
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Glad the lab results are normal. Hope you can relax some now and enjoy life without too much worrying.



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I am sorry to hear this, but I am glad to hear that your lab results are normal. I'm having to deal with cancer myself (I can't believe I'm saying this!).

I was diagnosed with prostate cancer a few years ago. I had my prostate removed. When I had it removed I thought that it would end that dilemma. Not so! And now I have had PSA that's been climbing, so something's up. I'm in the process of lining up tests, such as an X-ray and MRI to see what's going on. For a while the PSA had been climbing but not that much to be concerned about. I had taken medications to bring it down. But suddenly in the last few months, it climbed rapidly. We'll see what's going to happen.
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I didnt see the 7 year thing. I saw that it was pretty rare for it to get bad, and that they monitor it, and that maybe you'll go on fosomax or something like that.
I think you are stuck with us, and vice versa!
That is what they have on the main pages but there are different kinds of this and depending on how aggressive it has a 50% chance of going to MM.

But several people have said that my results were very low.

ETA : I did find a good active group for this. And I am getting a lot of info there. It helps that I am in one of the top cities for cancer medical care and have the leading doctor in the field available to me. I think.

Another of my concerns is that I just feel this back pain is linked to it and I am not sure I am going to be able to do my job when we go on our busy period. I am concerned I might have to ask to be placed in a lower paying job that doesn't require the stress of that time period.

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For a while the PSA had been climbing but not that much to be concerned about. I had taken medications to bring it down. But suddenly in the last few months, it climbed rapidly. We'll see what's going to happen.
I hope it is nothing to worry about but I know the feeling.

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I know nothing abou this disorder, but I hope your appointment is soon and that you get some answers and a game plan!!!!!!!!!

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Hope you get good answers when you go to the appointment and that you get all your questions answered. So sorry you are going through this.

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Still upset -- I keep learning scary things every day and no one in my family has this so I am not the least bit prepared. I had a terrible nights sleep last night and then had to go to work with both my back pain and lack of sleep. I am definitely having panic attacks. One thing that happens with me when I panic is that I get stupid. Today I did so many stupid things I really hoped that I made it home.

I am going to choose to look at the good. I got an appointment today with one of the leaders in the entire field at a renowned cancer place in my State. It was relatively quick too. April.

I hope tomorrow I will get some tests and some answers. {{}}}
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Well the oncologist was kind of dismissive.

- she walked in the door stating that she was "obliged" to see people with this disorder but it was the best part of her day as it was so minimal a concern.
- she said that my results were so miniscule... she isn't 100% sure I even have anything (she ordered more tests)
- she feels certain my back pain is due to something else. She said with the numbers I posted she just can't imagine a relation. We got me X-rays. She thinks my back pain could be due to electrolyte imbalance due to fasting.
- she feels I shouldn't change anything in my life for this issue but did say maybe I want to take a month off fasting to see if it helps the back pain.

Over all I thought she was dismissive. She didn't even have the full blood tests yet. When I asked her about the X-rays I said would she be interpreting it and she laughed and goes "oh god no" -- ok that is something you say with a friend, not a patient. Made me feel like she couldn't wait to be done with me.

Most of what she told me was *her* opinion that is something I don't like. I like the facts, and your opinion if I ask for it.

But it did make me feel better.

Also, they took my height and I have apparently grown .25 inches. This is the same result I got at the Dexa Scan I took recently. My theory is this... losing weight either (1) reduced the gravity on my back discs and they have decompressed; or (2) the larger I am the more my butt sticks out and thus, when I back up on a wall I am just slightly forward enough not to be directly straight.
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I'll keep you in my Thoughts and Prayers, @Emily Fox Seaton! I am so sorry the Oncologist wasn't too helpful, but he seems rather sure of you not having anything in particular. Let's hope that's the case! Perhaps you can go to another one if you want to be 100% sure? In any case, I am wishing You and your Family the VERY BEST of Luclk! Sending many safe, warm hugs to BOH you, @Emily Fox Seaton, your Family, your Friends, your Doctors, and ALL of your Loved Ones! Keep fighting and keep rocking NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, OK, MY DEAR, SWEET, KIND, AWESOME AND WONDERFUL FRIEND?!
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my friend has scoliosis and its a slow battle towards that progression eventually. just try not to aggravate it by playing intensives sports or getting into any accidents. wishing the best for you!
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Here is something amazing. Yesterday I took time off fasting. Now I have done this before but perhaps not enough. This time, I chose to eat every two hours no matter what. And my back pain was 80% improved. I really could not believe it. So I have decided to do that for a month and see what happens. I also found a blog that had someone fasted for a long time and she also wrote about the back pain she felt (which seemed similar to mine). I mentioned over and over again that the back pain started when starting fasting but I guess I just could not believe it. I am hopeful this is the issue.

As for why fasting would cause back pain... I really don't know. But the fact that it resolves so quickly leads me to "glycogen" in the muscles. One thing that fasting does is deplete your glycogen stores in the liver and the muscles. Indeed, you're not supposed to be able to burn off fat without depleting the glycogen. So perhaps my back muscles are just inherently weaker and when I deny them energy from the glycogen the can't perform their job. It also may not help that I eat from 9 AM to 1 PM so I am fasting when my muscles are tried (after a long day at work). I am also not sure if the glycogen (and the water attached to it) doesn't pull in electrolytes into the muscles. That are depleted when the glycogen in low. If I have strong muscles... I don't feel anything (say in my legs and feet) but in areas with weak muscles they start to fail and hurt.
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Glad your back is better! And it doesn't look like a cancer concern.

I think some doctors are disappointed when they have a specialty and they don't need to use it.
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my friend has scoliosis and its a slow battle towards that progression eventually. just try not to aggravate it by playing intensives sports or getting into any accidents. wishing the best for you!
Oh no worries there!

My doctors have always advised me to try to go as a long as possible without surgery because every year technology improves. There are also some studies of people who had scoliosis before the surgery was a thing where even with very severe curves -- were ok and had no pain.

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Yes I will cut her some slack for that... but later I did look her up and a lot of reviews said she had a bad bedside manner.
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