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I think I've been repressing everything so long I don't even know how to feel hardly anything. I have an autoimmune condition that causes pain and inflammation, and when the doctor is manipulating my joints, I have to force myself to notice the pain or else he'll think I'm doing OK. If I don't FORCE myself to pay attention to the pain, and react to it, I'll just let him hurt me without flinching or even really feeling the pain. If that makes sense. I know it sounds weird. How do you not feel PAIN? LOL. I can feel the aches and so on in general, but I have a hard time paying attention to it, and showing it. |
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It doesn't sound weird at all, can actually get desensitised to pain, and depression...someone described to me as a dimmer switch...I think it actually has a function when we're feeling too much pain.
I'm sorry you have this pain, and inflammation. I can imagine not wanting to focus on that kind of pain. Do you get much physical support? I see a Shiatsu practitioner sometimes. That has really helped with holding lots of tension, and pain from that. Have you talked to your therapist about your physical pain. I think it's hard to define emotional and physical pain, they are quite connected |
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I've always been this way with pain though. As far back as I can remember. If pain's not excruciating, I just grit my teeth and make it go away. I've had many kidney stones, and been in labor 2x, and the most I ever said was , 'Ow' I have mentioned to my therapist that I'm in a lot of physical pain. I think I've just got so many issues, it's like - where do you start? I think sometimes I get to feeling sorry for myself, and frustrated... and then I tell myself that I'm just fine and why am I making a big deal over nothing? And then I put it away and feel OK for a while, and then I get to feeling sorry for myself, lol and on and on. I have a massage chair, and a neck massage wrap, but get a little freaked when people touch me so I don't know if getting a massage would be helpful. I spend so much energy trying to keep from showing how uncomfortable I am being touched that it's exhausting. |
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Basically your therapist is right, they are saying that you should not keep emotions in but let them out.
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Thank you - I just have a hard time sort of experiencing emotions. Even when I start crying, I don't feel like I'm feeling anything as far as an emotion, I just am having a physical reaction. Like my eyes are crying, my throat's tight, my stomach hurts - but it doesn't mean anything to me emotionally. If that makes sense. It's hard to explain...
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I would be honest about your physical pain as much as possible. The doctors should be aware of what hurts, where possible. I hope things do start feeling better for you. Shiatsu was painful for me (I've gone once or twice a month for a year). The more I explained the pain, my practitioner was able to unlock my shoulders (it was a long process because I had been locked up since I was a child). Had a hip flexor injury that caused pain for ten + years and that's healed properly in the last year, also back pain...loads of pain really that I don't like to show/admit to either haha...Wouldn't want anyone knowing our weaknesses! Wouldn't have considered a massage before that, had only ever had a facial, then I trained to give massage last year, and it totally changed my life for the better. Haven't been able to do it since March, but...bla bla bla off topic. Hope you get a break with this, somehow, anyway |
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I'm glad massage has helped you so much! I identify with so much you said. I hate anyone knowing my weak spots as well. Massage says, 'Vulnerability!' to me. And it sounds terrifying. I have a hard time with handshakes at this point, haha! Has the Covid been what stopped you from massaging? It's hurt so many people. I hope that it runs down so everyone can get back to their normal lives. |
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I feel really lucky to have two therapists that have stuck with me and proved to be patient and trustworthy. I'm still fairly self conscious, but less so. Sorry if it's a tough question, but is there still any abuse in your life? Or anyone that's really pushing your buttons? OK if you don't want to say, or if you want to PM feel free |
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It seems you therapist is basically trying to get to not to hold all those ill feelings in. That is very good, i only got over mums death once i started crying, it happened later. I still think about mother, but if i held in the feelings my emotions would of been affected to this very day. Let it all go.
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...and crying is TIRING
It should get better now that your situation has improved (I hope!), but be patient with yourself. It does sound like a good suggestion from your therapist, but also, if you feel pushed, let them know to go easy on you. I was pretty firm with my therapist that I wouldn't react well to being pushed haha...push myself enough, I think... though it's nice to have lazy days sometimes |
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Therapist wasn't bothered at all, just said that it's good to try to trigger the emotions in private to try to build up tolerance so I don't get triggered as much in public.
I only have one session every 3 weeks or so, and by the next session, he doesn't seem to remember what we talked about last session - and it seems like we just kind of scrape at the surface. I'm learning to tolerate things so I don't have so much reaction. I feel frustrated - like - I don't want to learn to tolerate my current level of depression, I want to fix it. I don't want to learn to tolerate the idea that I'm unloveable, I want to stop thinking I'm unloveable. Sometimes I think I am just a human-shaped skin-covered wound, like there's nothing to me BUT stuff that's broken, stuff that's trying to heal, stuff that's infected, etc. And therapy feels very very much like a band-aid to me. I think I need surgery, and they give me a bandaid. LOL I'm sure part of it is that I have a really hard time relating to other people - and with a therapist, it's more of the same. I have a constant back-of-my-mind flutter between 'is this person a threat? Ack, personal questions. Don't say that, they'll use it against you in the future. Be careful. But you have to share, it's their job to listen. But they're not your friend, they don't care about you. But they have to listen, it's their job. But they don't have to care, and they might not even be right about anything they're saying. Every therapist says something different. Why should this one be better. OK so I answered the question.. Why are they looking at me funny? They think I'm weird. They don't believe me.' etc etc. I spend so much time trying to explain myself and qualify what I'm saying so they don't seem to think I'm weird, or because I don't think they understand what I'm saying, that there's really no time for anything else. |
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