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Default Oct 21, 2014 at 11:17 PM
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I am not sure if this really fits for me because I have always felt confident in my choices and ability... Although in my depressed state I can definitely say I am not that person anymore.... Not sure what changed it. I do make decisions but only when forced. The depression makes me question my cognitive abilities a great deal. Something I have always been very proud of... I have always been told I am smart, that I'll succeed, that I'm going to make something good of myself, etc... And I've always believed it... But now I question if I'll even ever feel normal again or do normal things like normal people without being exhausted by the end of the day.

I am going to try this and see how it works for me... Hey what have I got to lose?

Question though what if you decide to do something but you know you can't do it for say 5 minutes, do you wait and snap when you do it or do you snap immediately?

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Hello changing my mind. Im so glad there is a few of us starting together.
I second everything you said. I wonder the same things about my self.
I do feel that im starting to turn a corner since doing this though i have kept gorgetting to do it alot today.
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I am not sure if this really fits for me because I have always felt confident in my choices and ability... Although in my depressed state I can definitely say I am not that person anymore.... Not sure what changed it. I do make decisions but only when forced. The depression makes me question my cognitive abilities a great deal. Something I have always been very proud of... I have always been told I am smart, that I'll succeed, that I'm going to make something good of myself, etc... And I've always believed it... But now I question if I'll even ever feel normal again or do normal things like normal people without being exhausted by the end of the day.

I am going to try this and see how it works for me... Hey what have I got to lose?

Question though what if you decide to do something but you know you can't do it for say 5 minutes, do you wait and snap when you do it or do you snap immediately?
What you describe there sounds exactly like me! Wow, thanks very much . My cognitive ability was my strength too, and that has really come into question for me ever since being depressed. Now, I'm not so depressed anymore, but that still looms in my mind somehow.
 
 
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I know how you feel even when I was on antidepressants and felt good I still questioned my intelect. Even when not depressed I have lost some of the self confidence I once had. Some of it I think was just me growing up and realizing I'm not always right but some of it feels like the hidden insecurities I let lay dormant for years coming out to wreak havoc.

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Ok, so I have been doing this since last night. I'm starting slow and trying to remember to do it but I have done it several times this morning. I find that it does indeed give me a sense of empowerment. As soon as I make a decision to do something, snap, then do it I feel accomplished. Granted I am doing little things like touch something I normally wouldn't or just snap before doing something I normally would, but even so it helps put things in perspective. I am definitely depressed and often think there is no way out and nothing I can do about my situation. I often feel powerless, hopeless, doomed, etc. But this small simple activity reminds me that I do still have power; I do still have control; I am not doomed.

I think the reason this helps me is because the act of making a decision, snapping, then doing it proves wrong many of the negative thoughts or over-generalizations/catastrophizing thoughts. For example, I may think "I have no choice but to stay in bed and live my life in agony". This is not true and making a decision to get up and shower then snapping before doing so reassures me that I do have a choice and I do not have to stay in bed all day. Then again, if I have to stay in bed for the moment that is ok, then I can say "That's fine, body, I'll listen and stay in bed, but I'm going to decide to do meditation", snap, and it's done. So, even though my body will not cooperate with me right now, I can still make some decisions and life is not completely hopeless.

Note: My depression is very physical in how it manifests. So, I feel ok emotionally, I just have body pains/aches, GI issues, joint pain, etc that keeps me limited in what I can do. So, making decisions to do what I want to do and pushing my body sometimes is necessary and this helps me do that.

Not saying this will cure me, I do not have any grand expectations but it is a good tool to use to help remind yourself you still have control even if life is not perfect right now and that life can still be lived in some fashion.

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Question though what if you decide to do something but you know you can't do it for say 5 minutes, do you wait and snap when you do it or do you snap immediately?
Hi ChangingMyMind,

In a situation like that I snap both when I decide and 5 minutes later when I actually do it. In my case, that's partly because I just really enjoy snapping.
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Ok, so I have been doing this since last night. I'm starting slow and trying to remember to do it but I have done it several times this morning. I find that it does indeed give me a sense of empowerment. As soon as I make a decision to do something, snap, then do it I feel accomplished. Granted I am doing little things like touch something I normally wouldn't or just snap before doing something I normally would, but even so it helps put things in perspective. I am definitely depressed and often think there is no way out and nothing I can do about my situation. I often feel powerless, hopeless, doomed, etc. But this small simple activity reminds me that I do still have power; I do still have control; I am not doomed.

I think the reason this helps me is because the act of making a decision, snapping, then doing it proves wrong many of the negative thoughts or over-generalizations/catastrophizing thoughts. For example, I may think "I have no choice but to stay in bed and live my life in agony". This is not true and making a decision to get up and shower then snapping before doing so reassures me that I do have a choice and I do not have to stay in bed all day. Then again, if I have to stay in bed for the moment that is ok, then I can say "That's fine, body, I'll listen and stay in bed, but I'm going to decide to do meditation", snap, and it's done. So, even though my body will not cooperate with me right now, I can still make some decisions and life is not completely hopeless.

Note: My depression is very physical in how it manifests. So, I feel ok emotionally, I just have body pains/aches, GI issues, joint pain, etc that keeps me limited in what I can do. So, making decisions to do what I want to do and pushing my body sometimes is necessary and this helps me do that.

Not saying this will cure me, I do not have any grand expectations but it is a good tool to use to help remind yourself you still have control even if life is not perfect right now and that life can still be lived in some fashion.
I'm so glad its starting to work for you :-). I really recognize that feeling of power you're getting. As long as you're enjoying it, keep going! I think you will find many more benefits to come.

I find that this stuff has major physical manifestations too. Now I find that if I just sit quietly doing nothing, I have a growing feeling of vitality and energy that I never had before. I feel like being depressed was a constant, constant drain. I could never really relax, even when I wasn't being actively tormented by bad thoughts and feelings.

My depression didn't manifest so much as body aches and GI problems as you describe it, so I really don't know what's going to happen for that. I'm looking forward to hearing about it if you're going to post it though. Maybe your new vitality will help solve your physical problems in other ways? I always think it's a good idea to find a good MD and have an active relationship with him/her and to actively try to understand your own problems. I was exercising and having a good diet and taking supplements before snapping, and I'm doing it even more now. I think that depressed people often have physical problems that they just suffer with for long periods of time just because they are in the depressed mode of unconscious immediate pain avoidance and being unable to decide to act.

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Default Oct 22, 2014 at 05:42 PM
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I havent been able to do it today. I am in the middle of a massive mood swing related to insomnia and bpd. Hopefully i can get back on track. Im feeling loathed and pathic. Is there still hope for me.
Also i made bad decisions today. I had compulsion to ring up tarrot readers and now i hate my self because they wouldnt stop talking about themselves and other people who rang in. I couldnt get a word on edgeways im gonna cry my self to sleep tonight and when i wake up im gonna write MUG on my forhead because thats what i am.
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I havent been able to do it today. I am in the middle of a massive mood swing related to insomnia and bpd. Hopefully i can get back on track. Im feeling loathed and pathic. Is there still hope for me.
Also i made bad decisions today. I had compulsion to ring up tarrot readers and now i hate my self because they wouldnt stop talking about themselves and other people who rang in. I couldnt get a word on edgeways im gonna cry my self to sleep tonight and when i wake up im gonna write MUG on my forhead because thats what i am.
Hi cryingontheinside,

I think I understand about the tarrot card readers, only because I was depressed myself. You call them up and then you end up in this social situation where it starts to be unpleasant, but it feels like you're powerless and trapped. Parties were often like this for me. I would often start to feel horrible and super-stressed, but felt trapped because it's rude to leave too early. People may think "what's the big deal", but I think this is close to the core of depression and I know it feels just horrible. In that situation, you've lost contact with your inner self and you feel helpless and unable to act. Did I get that right?

I hope you can relax and think of today as a learning experience. I wonder what to do about insomnia though? I had some trouble with this until I got one of those sleep masks, which helped a lot.

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Thanks vital.
Im doing better today, back to snapping and making positive choices.
Im still upset with the psycic tho. I had already prepaid so i couldnt really end the call. He was a horrible man, judgemental, kept talking about homself and saying bad things about people with mental health. He said he didnt believe i had mental health because he didnt sense a black ora around me! How dare he. What a waste of money i hope he gets bad karma.
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SNAP CLUB is still working for me. Try it. Snapping has magical powers to defeat depression.

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I forgotten to do it in the last week but will try to do it again.
It did help some.
Im not sure if it can work with me as well as you as i dont just have depression. The depression is a simtom of my bpd but i am sure it could help to an extent.
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I forgotten to do it in the last week but will try to do it again.
It did help some.
Im not sure if it can work with me as well as you as i dont just have depression. The depression is a simtom of my bpd but i am sure it could help to an extent.
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I'm still doing this but not all the time. I snap when I remember but mostly I forget... Maybe it will become more second nature soon.

On a side note my depression seems to be letting up (over last few days). I'm not 100% by any means but I feel much better than I have in the last 8 months... So that's something!

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I am the same. I want to do it but keep forgetting but when i do remember to do it i feel impowered and things start to improve. I guess that your right the more often we do it, it will become like second nature
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I am the same. I want to do it but keep forgetting but when i do remember to do it i feel impowered and things start to improve. I guess that your right the more often we do it, it will become like second nature
Let any bad thoughts or feelings that you have remind you that you have the power to decide. I forget sometimes too.

For me, it's not like a chore or a habit that I do without thinking. I'm always conscious at the moment when I snap. I actively want to do it because it feels really great immediately. I've been doing this for 11 months now and it still keeps getting better and better.

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I am really happy for you.
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Did you find at a certain point that you started to make better decisions?
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Did you find at a certain point that you started to make better decisions?
It's more like I'm finally living my own life now when before I wasn't. I still love making those tiny, silly, in the moment decisions that I talked about in response to cryingontheinside. Every part of my life is dramatically better now, but it's not because I made some high quality important decisions. It's just that I'm finally finally free of the endless unconscious self-torturing that comes with depression. I'm still mainly just enjoying the contrast. I am not afraid of anyone or anything that might or might not happen in my life anymore. I feel strong. I have so much energy I sort of feel like a teenager. I feel safe. I feel full of good will towards everyone.

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I am only in the early stages but i am happy with the results so far.
I have noticed that whenever i stopped doing it for a few days through forgetting ir whatever reason, i find my self falling back down in that slump so yes i am totally for it.
Vital did you forget to do it when you first started or stop doing it when around others?
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