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Default Jul 09, 2018 at 09:48 AM
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Some of them have got to help a bit?

Not just “the correct med cocktail”

There are several reasons why some people can’t be completely drugged up (side effects etc )

The serokill that doctor prescribed for me didn’t “work”

forget all the psych drugs...what can we do all on our own...
forget all the doctors and therapists...what can we do on our own..
fuzzy what do you recommend that i do about my anger today..
i look to you as my anger specialist...
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forget all the psych drugs...what can we do all on our own...
forget all the doctors and therapists...what can we do on our own..
fuzzy what do you recommend that i do about my anger today..
i look to you as my anger specialist...
Can you tell any of the people that you’re angry with them?

Make a model or write a story about the worst offenders?

Make sure you keep moving around, this helps me a bit. Moving around, maybe kicking.. a ball...

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say whatever....you want
maybe you can help me..
i will die soon...i dont like that..
my good friend died last month suddenly...
mistakes were made ....his death was preventable...
this morning i am very disturbed...and tired..
maybe you can help me right now...
I am sorry I left you. I was forced by my parents to turn off the computer.

We all die unfortunately it may be. Scientifically it is not, emotionally it is. Hugh Laurie is my favorite actor and I cannot see him going bald, it just brings tears in my eyes. To me, he will always live as my Dr.House, even after I myself cease to exist. It's just very unfortunate, people die. And more and more shitheads like drug lords, pimps, human traffickers and terrorists are born. How sad.

We need more doctors, more scientists, more professors (not just teachers), more engineers, more professionals in general, to make the world a better place. We need the world to be a friendly place, it's not. It's funny how damaged I am yet I am dying to give away my life in the service of others, while most criminals are healthy as police officers yet choose to be the bad guys.
 
 
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And I cannot say I will live half your age. Death comes for everyone. It's the exactly opposite of life when I think about it. Life is a beautiful gift, unfortunately when, in the organ-system level animals, an essential organ like brain is damaged, everything comes falling apart. I have experienced it, you have experienced, pretty much everyone in developing and underdeveloped countries has experienced it. There are things like poverty and lack of education which hurt the health of an individual. There are things like the stupidity of humans and the viciousness of vectors and parasites and carnivores animals which affect the health of the individual.

Terrorism, drug dealing, human trafficking, prostitution, corruption, all the vices of the world are against our own biosphere. Hell, the injection of venom in our system can be justified, the poor animal is trying to survive, and as Darwin put it, only the fittest survive, it probably knows it. But how can you justify sex trafficking of children?

I am worried about your health, but here in India, we do not see our loved one live to the 80's, people usually die because of violence or illness, prematurely. Nothing can be done about it, we as human race have irrevocably ****ed up the biosphere.
 
 
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Little turtle, I am watching Robert Whitaker's lectures on you-tube. He is a very good speaker.
 
 
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Do any of you hear voices? Im bipolar as well as schizoaffective(diagnosed by my pdoc). My voices are driving me nuts....they keep on humming and buzzing inside my brain 24/7.....they don't say anything specific tho. This 24/7 buzzing makes me tired and exhausted the whole day. It gives me headaches and forces me to take painkillers. So frustrating.
 
 
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i am furious....we are not being treated right...
i may be mentally ill but i am not dumb...
mental illness is not being taken care of...
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i am furious....we are not being treated right...
i may be mentally ill but i am not dumb...
mental illness is not being taken care of...


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I don't know... why is every mentally ill person so depressed and hopeless?
 
 
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I am feeling empty now, I read online and found out that you get the feeling after you abandon your desires. Ever since I told myself "Fk it", I cannot feel anything except a little bit of sadness and hopelessness and loneliness accompanied by mostly emptiness. Why my most essential organ is damaged? Luck, I guess.
 
 
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Little turtle, I am watching Robert Whitaker's lectures on you-tube. He is a very good speaker.

what do you think about the information he is presenting...
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I cannot be a computer programmer either... Well technically I can but no company will hire me because they don't hire a person without a B.E or B.Tech degree... I am screwed.
 
 
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Why the hell was I born? So much talent, so much potential, so much hardwork yet nothing in hand. Thank you, mom and dad, thank you.
 
 
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Why the hell was I born? So much talent, so much potential, so much hardwork yet nothing in hand. Thank you, mom and dad, thank you.

lonelychemist-----what do you think of the MAD IN AMERICA website..
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little turtle, I will read some articles on the website and inform you about my opinion.

very good...I really want your honest opinion...
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I don't think the mission of "Mad in America" is bad. Everything is abused and has a room for improvement for it. But I wonder why they criticize the model on which psychiatry is based? Are they the ones performing neuropsychological experiments on the lab, disagreeing with the latest current findings of the top most psychiatrists and psychologists around the world? It's not to say psychiatry is not abused.

Of course psychiatry is abused, some psychiatrists misuse their authority for personal gain. But honestly, EVERYONE misuses their power. It's a fact. I remember the Stanford experiment where "the Lucifer effect" was described. You don't need to create a website telling people the current model of psychiatry is bad, for God's sake WE DO NOT KNOW enough about neural disorders to discard a model just because people think their disorder is incurable at the time. Emotions shouldn't come behind a model being discarded or not. If we go according to their logic, we would find ourselves thinking drinking fruit juice cures cancer.

Just because some MD doctors agree, it doesn't mean you should discard the whole model. Honestly if there IS a better model available, World Health Organization should be the one to try to implement it, not some non-profit organization. Cruel it may sound, but it's true.

In this article, the author is PURELY hospitalized due to LEGAL MISUSE OF POWERS NOT DONE BY PSYCHIATRISTS, psychiatrists are obviously not judges or cops to have such a power (I must add that the cops were the one who knocked her door). It's my first post I read there and I can make out it's calling for a change in legal system, again nothing against psychiatry, and psychiatrists did not give her mistreatment. It could very well be the case where a psychiatrist is forced to have her admitted. The author mentions she has a problem of "extreme anger", honestly, it's her own words about her own anger issues, why should psychiatrists overlook it? The only fault attributed to hospital staff I can find is that they took more time to legally process things.

Second, here is a ridiculous article. Here we've got the case of a child being forced into psychiatric care. I wonder why not? Why did she like it's a horror house and repetitively say "no, no, no, no"? That doesn't make sense.

It was her PEDIATRICIAN'S recommendation to have her in the inpatient care. So she's thinking she is the Einstein of medicine at that age and her self-suggested "feeling bad" was a result of her taking the prescribed Prozac. So Prozac must be bad. And also the pediatrician must be stupid to have her hospitalized. And her mother should also be stupid to listen to him. She mentioned infection yet forgot it could have affected her brain. It is never mentioned how she got the theory of hers where she describes "the antibiotics killed the good bacteria in my gut."

Anyway, so she refuses treatment while it is ordered by a doctor, so the only thing that legally could be done is to commit her involuntarily. Had she not resisted (her fault), she wouldn't have been given the dose of benzodiazepine. How is it related to rape? And how sexual assault in college is related to it?

If I were in the place of her, I wouldn't have resisted and would have been nice to the hospital staff. And I would have gladly left when my treatment is over. Simple as that. No need to write a blog about it.

For God's sake, I think that website is satire.

I don't mean doctors are the most nicest of people, but they're doing their job, which is to make people safe. You cannot overthrow the politics because there was torture a few centuries ago and it still is, you cannot overthrow medicine because it was abused in the past. Sure it can be still abused, but that very much depends upon the individual's mind, rather than their training or location. I have very positive experience with doctors, so much I want to become one. I cannot yell at them because they did not contact the police in my case, simply they have a reason and they won't tell me.

I had the opposite experience. I beg my psychiatrist to admit me while he doesn't. And I am not one of the more sane people in the planet. I am simply not a threat to other's around me, why should he waste his hospital's resources on me? The only itchy part is that he did not admit me even though I was having a breakdown and hearing voices and vomiting while eating. Enough people aren't diagnosed, I have a real case where my parents aren't diagnosed.

Again everything can be abused and it is not limited to psychiatry. It had a dark past, sure. It may still be abused, sure. People may have experienced horrible experiences, sure. But what they need to understand is psychiatrists are humans, their treatments vary because what is taught in med school changes and they have their own opinions to treat people. Again, I would be strongly against to remove psychiatrists of their power to commit people. And what could go wrong for five days? After five days, it's court who fails you, not psychiatrists. The more you resist, the harder diagnosing becomes.

The "pushing meds" is more attributed to pharmaceutical companies growing political power. In my opinion. You're a psychiatrist and you know about the system than I do. But there are shows like Mr.Robot which are creating more awareness, it all roots deep into politics and not medicine. People are cruel, they always have been, since the dawn of history. Look at terrorists, they behead people. It's more scary than prescribing your patient just to earn money... while I do agree that both are bad, but their extent varies.

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wow...I am impressed with you...
what do you think about the model of causation--
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