Confessions of little turtle with love #2

Fuzzybear · Feb 01, 2019 at 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Thirty shades

Exhaustion...

We are real
We deserve love

Is there any peaceful rest to be had after our years of punishment?

I send you love my dear friend

I wish I had answers ....

I’m honoured to be on the AS IS bus with you and little turtle and Rohag and all the other kind people here

Thirty shades · Feb 02, 2019 at 03:17 PM

The AS IS bus is a safe place for us all....

Much love to @Fuzzybear, @little tuttle, @Rohag

and all those who travel

@cryingontheinside would you like to ride with us today?

mountainstream · Feb 02, 2019 at 03:26 PM

Hello to all on the bus.

cryingontheinside · Feb 02, 2019 at 03:38 PM

Hugs hugs hugs hugs

mountainstream · Feb 03, 2019 at 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Thirty shades

Exhaustion...

We are real
We deserve love

Is there any peaceful rest to be had after our years of punishment?

mikimostar · Feb 03, 2019 at 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Fuzzybear

Little Turtle family is not educated about MH symptoms. They think that is weakness of the will not chemical dis-balance in brain. If you do not have an arm everybody will have understanding but your disability is not visible and people are just overlooking it as something not important.

Mental health as part was not recognized by lawmakers for a long time because of it.

mikimostar · Feb 03, 2019 at 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Thirty shades

Therapy may help some people.

For those of us with CPTSD with depression and anxiety, my GP tells me there is no cure. Just management which helps but when we are overwhelmed, triggered all the time, life is unbearable....

The support we give each other and knowing we are not alone is very much appreciated. Being accepted AS IS, being our own friend is a starting point...

I am so sorry to hear that. I am just a student of the social work and I am working as case manager in mental health agency. I know that my counselors are using different techniques not just cognitive behavioral therapy. They are using all kind of therapies and coping skills. Can you try mindfulness? It helps to accept yourself as you are and prevent panic attacks. Also, positive thinking as a doing a miracles. How positive thinking works? Easy, tell yourself that you are doing a good thing and commend yourself even when you just get up from bed and wash your face when you wake up. You made it. Reward yourself for coping with MH.

mountainstream · Feb 03, 2019 at 11:14 AM

I feel sad...

mikimostar · Feb 03, 2019 at 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Thirty shades

I watched a news programme here in the UK yesterday,
A depression survivor, urged us to get help,
stating there is help out there for everyone.

She has not met us...
or heard our truth...

Mental health services do harm and no good!

I am sorry to hear that. I am not familiar with UK system. In U.S.A programs for MH are developed by lawmakers (thanks to George Bush senior who saw how depression can change someone life because his best friend had severe depression and attempt suicide).

mikimostar · Feb 03, 2019 at 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by mountainstream

I feel sad...

What is going on? Can I help you?

Fuzzybear · Feb 03, 2019 at 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Thirty shades

I watched a news programme here in the UK yesterday,
A depression survivor, urged us to get help,
stating there is help out there for everyone.

She has not met us...
or heard our truth...

Mental health services do harm and no good!

This is not true... what this person says

She has not heard us or our truth

The “services” do harm

They are not listening still

Much love to you.

Fuzzybear · Feb 03, 2019 at 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Thirty shades

Grrrrrrrrrrr why don't professional's listen to us?

Our truth falls on deaf ears....

Thirty shades · Feb 03, 2019 at 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mikimostar

I am so sorry to hear that. I am just a student of the social work and I am working as case manager in mental health agency. I know that my counselors are using different techniques not just cognitive behavioral therapy. They are using all kind of therapies and coping skills. Can you try mindfulness? It helps to accept yourself as you are and prevent panic attacks. Also, positive thinking as a doing a miracles. How positive thinking works? Easy, tell yourself that you are doing a good thing and commend yourself even when you just get up from bed and wash your face when you wake up. You made it. Reward yourself for coping with MH.

I have tried mindfulness. Sometimes helps but not when I am triggered and overwhelmed.

I have lots of coping techniques but there is no cure. I find meds don't work for me. They have no positive effect and I suffer badly from the side effects.

Positive thinking helps but sometimes life is just bad and no amount of positive spin will change it. It will still be bad in years to come too.

Do you know of any treatments that may help us in the UK? We have terrible mental health services who cause us more harm.

Much love to you

Thirty shades · Feb 03, 2019 at 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mountainstream

I feel sad...

mountainstream

Much love to you

mountainstream · Feb 03, 2019 at 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Fuzzybear

IMHO the DSM and the equivalents stink. I use it to wipe my bear butt on. IMHO that’s all it’s good “enough” for gggggrrrrrrrrrrr

I agree. I have been harmed by professionals also.

Fuzzybear · Feb 03, 2019 at 05:58 PM

much love to all on the as is bus

Where is little turtle?

mikimostar · Feb 03, 2019 at 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Thirty shades

I have tried mindfulness. Sometimes helps but not when I am triggered and overwhelmed.

I have lots of coping techniques but there is no cure. I find meds don't work for me. They have no positive effect and I suffer badly from the side effects.

Positive thinking helps but sometimes life is just bad and no amount of positive spin will change it. It will still be bad in years to come too.

Do you know of any treatments that may help us in the UK? We have terrible mental health services who cause us more harm.

Much love to you

Thanks for love. I know that there is genetic testing for compatibility with medications. I was lucky one and my medications are working but counseling helps a lot. Life is complicated and it is hard if you do not have support from family members.
I am not not clinician yet to give you some tips about treatments or therapies but try to find good counselor. The legend said they exist

Fuzzybear · Feb 03, 2019 at 06:44 PM

I’m also in the uk and am allergic to all the meds I’ve tried (many) except for benzos.

I do think there may be some good counsellors, I haven’t found one though

Also plenty of money would be needed imho, which not everyone has

The “public system” imho, is not honest in this forest irl imho ... amongst other things

mikimostar · Feb 03, 2019 at 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Fuzzybear

I’m also in the uk and am allergic to all the meds I’ve tried (many) except for benzos.

I do think there may be some good counsellors, I haven’t found one though

Also plenty of money would be needed imho, which not everyone has

The “public system” imho, is not honest in this forest irl imho ... amongst other things

I am sorry to hear this Fuzzybear. The system is not perfect anywhere but keep trying and you will find a good counselor. It is a trip and like all trips the road can be rough.

little turtle · Feb 04, 2019 at 08:58 AM

i have been having a problem with my heart....out of breath...
probably a-fib.....I will be having some tests soon...

so I worry and worry and worry....
valium really helps me when I just can't stand it anymore..
but valium really scares me...it is such a good medicine...
I do not want to go back being a regular user...

so I am trying other actions to handle this stress...drugs
and medicines scare me...I am not very courageous...

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Fuzzybear Wisest Elder Ever Member Since Nov 2002 Location: Cave. Posts: 96,329 (SuperPoster!) 21 81.2k hugs given	Feb 03, 2019 at 06:44 PM #698 I’m also in the uk and am allergic to all the meds I’ve tried (many) except for benzos. I do think there may be some good counsellors, I haven’t found one though Also plenty of money would be needed imho, which not everyone has The “public system” imho, is not honest in this forest irl imho ... amongst other things __________________