Our inner snake...

Hi IM Dan · Apr 10, 2020 at 09:02 AM

Something about this inner snake I find extremely unsettling is that it knows far more than my conscious.

When solving problems, I sometimes listen to the voice(thoughts) of reason helping me solve the problems going through them with me to identify solutions, whether it be for work or a relationship.

However, its that same voice(thoughts) I learn to trust that in most situations is beating me down with its own thoughts of who or what I am in most any and other situations. Does anyone have this problem?

I want to separate them but I think they are the same. Obviously its a vastly unbalanced struggle, most the time Im losing, its so cunning it tells me it knows what others think of me too.

Thirty shades · Apr 11, 2020 at 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Hi IM Dan

Something about this inner snake I find extremely unsettling is that it knows far more than my conscious.

When solving problems, I sometimes listen to the voice(thoughts) of reason helping me solve the problems going through them with me to identify solutions, whether it be for work or a relationship.

However, its that same voice(thoughts) I learn to trust that in most situations is beating me down with its own thoughts of who or what I am in most any and other situations. Does anyone have this problem?

I want to separate them but I think they are the same. Obviously its a vastly unbalanced struggle, most the time Im losing, its so cunning it tells me it knows what others think of me too.

Yes I think all our snakes are like this.

Yin and yang...

I think we are supposed to assess whether the snakes message is true for us and challenge him/her if he/she belittles us. We were programmed in our childhood and so was our snake.

I think the snakes ability to imagine what others think, is the most damaging trait. It is hard to spot it and analyse it before it invades us. Sometimes I worry that I have upset someone after not hearing from them. They were busy but my snake tells me they don't like me anymore and I am bad and useless. In the long run it turns out to be untrue but my snake is very cunning and convincing.

Train of Thought · Apr 11, 2020 at 08:24 AM

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Yes the thread is still active.

I hear what you are saying. Our snakes are strong minded and most consistent.

I have had some success with loving her and getting some reprieve. Most of the time she still spouts her nonsense. There are times she speaks a valuable message to warn me. I have asked her to "say it again, this time say it nicely please."

I love that my snake is there for me at those times.

I also love her and try to recognise her wounds from when we were much smaller. It can help temporarily.

Sending kind wishes for a happy Easter

Thanks for your reply.
Yes, in a ... non aggressive status this side of me is kinda helpful, too. Similar to @Hi IM Dan.
It's very attentive and perceptive. But this is also the reason why it sometimes goes overboard. And at this point I am still not able to distinguish the moment my healthy perception becomes the anabolic induced Hulk and overanalyzes everything. Because most of the time it's a creeping recession.
Maybe asking it to be a bit nicee will help.

Thanks again.

Fuzzybear · Apr 11, 2020 at 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Thirty shades

Yes I think all our snakes are like this.

Yin and yang...

I think we are supposed to assess whether the snakes message is true for us and challenge him/her if he/she belittles us. We were programmed in our childhood and so was our snake.

I think the snakes ability to imagine what others think, is the most damaging trait. It is hard to spot it and analyse it before it invades us. Sometimes I worry that I have upset someone after not hearing from them. They were busy but my snake tells me they don't like me anymore and I am bad and useless. In the long run it turns out to be untrue but my snake is very cunning and convincing.

Good post dear Thirty shades.

Our primary care givers did not care about us and belittled us.

A child would internalise that lack of care, their inability to care, and feel that it is them who are ''bad and useless'' - they could not place blame or perceive a deeply flawed human who probably should never have been a parent... that would be too dangerous.

So if someone else appears not to care, whether this is real or perceived, especially if that person had appeared to care before... it sets our snakes programming off. As you said, usually the person is not like the primary ''care givers'' and is a decent human being who was busy rather than callous and cruel.

I don't know if this makes sense.

hugs and respect to you and your snake

Thirty shades · Apr 12, 2020 at 03:54 AM

I agree with you Train of thought and Fuzzybear.

Rumination is a terrible habit of ours. Spending so much time analysing our snakes (and what other peoples say via their inner snake) is very negative for us. We are unable to forget the subject because of our internal pain and need for compassion. I guess we are not good at self love....

Fighting against how we have been programmed dear Fuzzybear, takes all our time and energy.

If we didn't have all this to contend with, we would have time to be our true happy and successful selves that has been denied us.

Hugs and respect

Fuzzybear · Apr 12, 2020 at 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Thirty shades

I agree with you Train of thought and Fuzzybear.

Rumination is a terrible habit of ours. Spending so much time analysing our snakes (and what other peoples say via their inner snake) is very negative for us. We are unable to forget the subject because of our internal pain and need for compassion. I guess we are not good at self love....

Fighting against how we have been programmed dear Fuzzybear, takes all our time and energy.

If we didn't have all this to contend with, we would have time to be our true happy and successful selves that has been denied us.

Hugs and respect

Good post dear Thirty shades

Respect and hugs to you and your snake

Thirty shades · Apr 13, 2020 at 02:41 AM

Respect and hugs to your inner snake dear Fuzzybear.

Respect and hugs to all inner snakes

Fuzzybear · Apr 13, 2020 at 08:35 PM

Fuzzybear · Apr 13, 2020 at 08:37 PM

Hi IM Dan · Apr 13, 2020 at 09:40 PM

to reprogram, when the voice says don't do that do it. When the voice says they don't like you stay quiet.. say something. Within reason

Thirty shades · Apr 14, 2020 at 03:21 AM

There are sometimes when I am grateful to my snake. She has alerted me to danger.

I am going to try asking her to be kind today....

Hugs and respect to all

giddykitty · Apr 15, 2020 at 12:12 PM

I'm happy my "inner snake" has been quiet during this writing session. In the past I'd really struggle with self doubt at how my story was going or if it really was a story or if I should even write it in the first place...I think it helps that I think of this in terms that no one will be reading what I am writing at the moment though. I mean, I could potentially share it, because I am censoring it somewhat, but at the same time, it's thoughts and fears that I too have being portrayed in this story, so in that sense it is kinda scary when someone else reads it. Anyway, that's what I first thought of today when thinking of this concept of inner snakes.

Thirty shades · Apr 15, 2020 at 04:33 PM

giddykitty, my snake can also be confused and indecisive. Maybe our snakes are just insecure.

Fuzzybear · Apr 15, 2020 at 04:46 PM

Good thread. Hugs and respect to the inner snakes in this thread

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Fuzzybear · Apr 17, 2020 at 07:38 PM

Hugs and respect to you and your snake dear Thirty shades

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Thirty shades Grand Magnate Member Since Jul 2018 Location: UK Posts: 4,799 (SuperPoster!) 5 16.2k hugs given	Apr 14, 2020 at 03:21 AM #291 There are sometimes when I am grateful to my snake. She has alerted me to danger. I am going to try asking her to be kind today.... Hugs and respect to all
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Thirty shades Grand Magnate Member Since Jul 2018 Location: UK Posts: 4,799 (SuperPoster!) 5 16.2k hugs given	Apr 15, 2020 at 04:33 PM #293 giddykitty, my snake can also be confused and indecisive. Maybe our snakes are just insecure.
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