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Default May 01, 2019 at 11:11 AM
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maybe some help here for depression..
for us ....
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Thanks little turtle

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I ordered the book just now. Should have it by early next week.
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Default May 01, 2019 at 12:55 PM
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Give us a summary of his approach. You are uniquely qualified to give us a review of this book. Thanks.

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Default May 01, 2019 at 01:37 PM
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maybe some help here for depression..
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It sure is quiet around here these days

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Please tell us more Little Turtle

I value your wisdom
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Default May 01, 2019 at 05:19 PM
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i am a broken down psychiatrist....
i do not know what is best for any other person...
i like the ornish book...it gives me hope..
it talks about lifestyle medicine...not pills...
4 important behaviors----------------------
eat well
move more
stress less
love more

but i still have my little supply of valium...
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Default May 01, 2019 at 07:43 PM
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I think lifestyle medicine, eg self care and being vigilant about changing your life when necessary to improve ones mental health is vastly important. This is especially important coming from a psychiatrist. Meds are not the magic bullet that can magically transform us if we dont take care of ourselves and make the hard decisions.
Thank you turtle, thats just what we needed to know if we should look for the book.

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i am a broken down psychiatrist....
i do not know what is best for any other person...
i like the ornish book...it gives me hope..
it talks about lifestyle medicine...not pills...
4 important behaviors----------------------
eat well
move more
stress less
love more

but i still have my little supply of valium...
Thank you Little Turtle.

Do you have an amazon link for the Ornish book please?

Valium is different to other meds, it helps where other meds make me worse....
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Default May 02, 2019 at 06:00 AM
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i don't know how to do LINKS...not yet
ORNISH has many videos and podcasts on U-TUBE...
also many websites about ORNISH LIFESTYLE MEDICINE...
I hope that we all are helped in some way by doing some of this...
I am going to give it a try...and if it doesn't work I will say so..
I like this lifestyle medicine to help us with depression and anxiety..
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you can buy the book amazon prime for $14.95..hardcover...
that is cheap...big book...ornish considers depression to be
a chronic disease...
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the LOVE MORE change part-----
involves social support and intimacy....
how about good friends AS IS...
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the LOVE MORE change part-----
involves social support and intimacy....
how about good friends AS IS...
I agree little turtle that this is very important

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the LOVE MORE change part-----
involves social support and intimacy....
how about good friends AS IS...
Love more is important.

We need to love ourselves AS IS
This aids us to love others
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so many people irl are so hateful...
they try to take others down....
I want to pay attention to love...
not hate...
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so many people irl are so hateful...
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I want to pay attention to love...
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Good post little turtle ....

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We need to UNDO some of the crap in this world

What do you think, little turtle

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What do you think, little turtle
fuzzy what is at the top of your crap list...

mine is about not hurting other persons...
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fuzzy what is at the top of your crap list...

mine is about not hurting other persons...
I agree, I do not like hurting others

And also I don’t like those who hurt me

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AS IS. That’s the hard part, isn’t it?

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