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Default May 04, 2019 at 10:23 AM
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Is depression a mental disorder or a state of awareness and resistance?

Are antidepressants useful medications to fight depression or are they just a way to earn us back to the society and the system?

If I leave the system, will a still be depressed?

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I believe it's something that needs treatment, whatever it may be.
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Default May 04, 2019 at 03:26 PM
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I do believe it’s a disorder; but also recoverable. When depression is not treated correctly it can lead to greater distress. The key to recovery is discovering “Why” one is depressed and agreeing to receive help. Once I heard depression was an internal hatred, contempt, or dislike of one self. I think to some degree this is true, but one must discover why. Have hope...it truly is recoverable. There is hope in this mixed up world. Depression or Living a Wrong Life?please know there are many who have overcome depression; I was once there but not anymore. Depression or Living a Wrong Life?

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Default May 04, 2019 at 08:51 PM
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I do believe it’s a disorder; but also recoverable. When depression is not treated correctly it can lead to greater distress. The key to recovery is discovering “Why” one is depressed and agreeing to receive help. Once I heard depression was an internal hatred, contempt, or dislike of one self. I think to some degree this is true, but one must discover why. Have hope...it truly is recoverable. There is hope in this mixed up world. Depression or Living a Wrong Life?please know there are many who have overcome depression; I was once there but not anymore. Depression or Living a Wrong Life?
There isn't always a why. That's the problem. Depression though - no matter the form (even the "treatment resistant" .. I had that for 30yrs at one time) - is able to be recovered from. The key is in mindset .. your stance on if you are truly going to allow yourself to give in or not. If not - keep trying things until something works. If nothing works, just find something to either distract you or relax you a bit during the hard times - and wait it out. Eventually, it will pass. Walk as much as you can. Just that alone will help you exponentially.

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Default May 05, 2019 at 08:58 AM
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I want something. We all do want something. To want something is the first step to get it. But as someone living with depression, it is hard to want. The part in our brain that is probably linked to wanting is disrupted for some reason and somehow this is related to depression. I’m not going to talk about the science behind this. But I will try to open this for discussion by asking questions.
A few years ago, I wrote an essay discussing how the act of wanting can be the most important factor in consumerism. The desire to own something is the reason behind most of human actions. You want a car? You work for it. You want to live in a beautiful house? You work for it. You want a family? You build it. However, these are all desires that keep us in the system. And what if a person does not want these? I, for example, don’t want to work. Don’t want to own a car, don’t want to have a house. I just want to live free and peaceful. Is that not possible?
To be able to enjoy the world, do I have to accept it as it is and just be part of it without asking questions? I was born 27 years ago and my destiny was already written by the world around me. 12 years of school + 4 years of college and there you go. From that point you have to work until you die (or retire). When I realized that this is not my path, things started to change. Now I remember, my depression started with me asking questions.

Is depression a mental disorder or a state of awareness and resistance?
Are antidepressants useful medications to fight depression or are they just a way to earn us back to the society and the system?
If I leave the system, will a still be depressed?
Imagine this now. I graduated and found a job, my antidepressants are working and I’m getting paid. I became something that in the beginning I rebelled against.
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There is a small village, my father left that village when he was 13. My grandfather died in that village. He was a farmer. Now only 20 people lives there. What if I go there and live on my own. I have the skills to work freelance. I can easily create a sustainable life there. It’s a beautiful mountain village. I can have the time to create hobbies. Woodworking, gardening, farming…
Would it end my depression without antidepressants or would I still be depressed?

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Default May 05, 2019 at 05:03 PM
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Ok .. I tried to post this a second ago and it said I had a wrong link .. no clue what that means .. anyway I will start over.

I am not sure where you live. Here, we go to school til we are 18 and then have the option to go to college for 2-8 yrs if we desire. Even if we drop out during those first 18 years, we can go back later and get an equivalent degree as an adult. So yes, our lives are structured but not neccessarily "pre-determined".

As to depressed people not wanting anything. It depends on what you mean and what stage of depression you are referencing. For example, suicidally depressed people do not want anything other than death (which they do work for). People in lesser stages though may want things like "people to care", "people to listen", "a life that means something", "money", "home", "a job", etc. Some of those things sound simplistic, yes. Things like "a job". Most people would say "then go look for one". The depressed person may respond "can't (my loved one) won't let me ", or "can't, I have (specific physical problems) and there are no jobs here that hire people like me ". Point is - even though the person wants it, he or she sees no way to get it. The person cannot see any positive outcome. Therefore that person cannot form a working plan to succeed in their goal. Other things such as "people to care" may actually be impossible. We cannot change others. We can get a whole new social circle but there is no guarantee those people will always care either. We need to accept our limitations - but that does not mean we do not want to go beyond them.

As to your own life. The choices on how to live your life are yours. You have the possibility of happiness no matter what you do. Depression can also rear its head no matter where you are or what you are doing.

How you treat depression is a personal thing.
There are natural ways. There are pharmaceutical ways. Both are correct. That does not make depression any less or more of a illness or disorder no matter which way you choose to treat it.

People treat cancer with drugs. People also treat cancer naturally. Is it not a disease when you can treat it natural? It is the same. Don't try to make it different.

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Default May 05, 2019 at 05:27 PM
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I believe depression is made up of different types.

Some do have forms that can be treated with medication due to chemical imbalances.

Many have been brought up to process thoughts unhelpfully.
For some this can be corrected with therapy eg. CBT
However many here suffer much more and meds and CBT are not enough.

We learn tools to manage our limited lives but struggle day to day with issues that others manage well.
We are rejected by society which makes our health even worse.

Maybe one day we will have better treatments, I hope so, very much.
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