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Default Feb 24, 2020 at 04:17 PM
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the little turtle is here to help...thanks fuzzy...
I don't remember if I asked you about your thoughts re CBT..
or person centred therapy?
or DBT..
or ACT..
or cognitive analytic therapy (CAT)
or any of the others?


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I also wonder about Rohag's thoughts and Thirty shades thoughts re CBT (I think I may have some idea already

New topic, or an old one revisited, not sure.

I find any therapist irl always asks...……… edited.


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Default Feb 24, 2020 at 05:31 PM
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CBT

And therapists think you have failed when it doesn't help

I am hearing good things about person centred therapy...
A long road with the need for a good therapist....

I have been wondering about EMDR?

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Well this is Desiree2006.
I was feeling anxious, restless and depressed - so I came back.
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Default Feb 25, 2020 at 05:51 AM
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yes....i have some thoughts about therapy...
i was helped bigtime by a woman psychologist...
she had been a nurse.....she liked me..
she listened and took time with me....
no special name for this kind of therapy....
it was very helpful for me....
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that lady psychologist cared about me....
not money...not other things...she cared about me..
and one psychiatrist was good in the same way..
as if i were their son...
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i started reading a new book dealing with the general problem
of INSULIN RESISTANCE.....and what to eat to become sensitive
to insulin....there is nothing much in the index about MENTAL...
but reading on i see something important for us with depression..
i have some hope for me and my friends...
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i started reading a new book dealing with the general problem
of INSULIN RESISTANCE
This topic has become rather interesting to me.
Insulin resistance and chronic hyperinsulinemia appear to be related, and may be related to more than metabolic health narrowly defined.

What are you reading, Little Turtle? What do you make of it?

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This topic has become rather interesting to me.
Insulin resistance and chronic hyperinsulinemia appear to be related, and may be related to more than metabolic health narrowly defined.

What are you reading, Little Turtle? What do you make of it?
rohag-----i am hoping it has to do with depression....
i really like this book and the authors...new book...

MASTERING DIABETES by khambatta and barbaro
the 2 guys are delightful.....cyrus and robby
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i do not like any information about mental health unless IT IS FREE...
i am saddened and depressed by what i see in psychiatry....an...d psychology...
i do not like mental health tied to business$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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i am scared now...it is ok for me to be fearful...i want to be able to deal with it...
there is a lot in here and out there to be scared about...i am on the bus..
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Default Feb 25, 2020 at 01:50 PM
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that lady psychologist cared about me....
not money...not other things...she cared about me..
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as if i were their son...
Hello Little Turtle,

This is obviously a longstanding thread with a long history, but I do check on it although you don't know me. You seem so lovely, fragile, and vulnerable. I too find the world frightening, as you say you do.

I just wanted to say in regard to your remarks about what was helpful in therapy, that that was my experience too. Although I'm pretty much "through" with talk therapy now, I saw many different therapists with different combinations of degrees over the years, and the one I finally settled in with, the one who helped me the most, helped because she cared about me. She engaged in a relationship with me, and she showed me in many ways that she cared. No boundaries were ever broken. It took years, but I think that's what finally helped me break through to independence, though I still take medication to keep functioning.

Many blessings to you and all here, on the bus.

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Person centred therapy seems to help
Top ups may be needed
We are a life long project.
I think they are only just starting to realise this...

Is there any chance they will give up blaming us for that?

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You're very welcome, Turtle.

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Awe! She's gone? So that's how someone becomes anonymous?

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Well I'm back.... I could not stay away for long. I came back because I need support.
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rohag-----i am hoping it has to do with depression....
As others participating here, I suffer from longterm depression and anxiety. Circumstances have permitted me time to consider my conditions, perhaps too much time.

The human organism is a "system of systems," a marvelous complex of negative and positive feedback loops that folds in both the physiological and psychological. Many of those loops are endocrine-hormonal.

Logic can lead astray, but I wonder to what extent the study of depression and anxiety might benefit from the inclusion of endocrinology, and necessarily metabolic homeostasis, in the science?
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We are a life long project.
Some of us certainly are, and the cost-effective techniques beloved of medical bureaucracies tend to gag on us.

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As others participating here, I suffer from longterm depression and anxiety. Circumstances have permitted me time to consider my conditions, perhaps too much time.

The human organism is a "system of systems," a marvelous complex of negative and positive feedback loops that folds in both the physiological and psychological. Many of those loops are endocrine-hormonal.

Logic can lead astray, but I wonder to what extent the study of depression and anxiety might benefit from the inclusion of endocrinology, and necessarily metabolic homeostasis, in the science?

Some of us certainly are, and the cost-effective techniques beloved of medical bureaucracies tend to gag on us.
thanks thanks thanks......metoo chronic depression and anxiety....low energy and nervous.....i am now finished with 6 chapters in that new book...it is spectacular..i am hopeful about gaining more energy....less depressed...
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i am so sad that i have to change the way i am eating....
i think eating has a lot to do with the brain and depression...
and i am going to find out what can be done...i will report back...
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[QUOTE=Rohag;6780666]

The human organism is a "system of systems," a marvelous complex of negative and positive feedback loops that folds in both the physiological and psychological. Many of those loops are endocrine-hormonal.

Logic can lead astray, but I wonder to what extent the study of depression and anxiety might benefit from the inclusion of endocrinology, and necessarily metabolic homeostasis, in the science?


It makes sense, Rohag. For example, I'm postmenopausal now, but when I did have a menstrual cycle I could practically set my clock by the mood changes I'd endure depending on where I was in the cycle. When my hormonal level would drop right before the onset of a period I would be suicidally depressed, hardly able to get out of bed in the morning. I believe that coincides with a measurable drop in hormonal level.

At the onset, when all the hormones came rushing back, I felt FANTASTIC.

I believe this is a known medical phenomenon.

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As others participating here, I suffer from longterm depression and anxiety. Circumstances have permitted me time to consider my conditions, perhaps too much time.

The human organism is a "system of systems," a marvelous complex of negative and positive feedback loops that folds in both the physiological and psychological. Many of those loops are endocrine-hormonal.

Logic can lead astray, but I wonder to what extent the study of depression and anxiety might benefit from the inclusion of endocrinology, and necessarily metabolic homeostasis, in the science?

Some of us certainly are, and the cost-effective techniques beloved of medical bureaucracies tend to gag on us.
they gag on us. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


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