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Little Turtle, how typical was that attack?
Do they normally last about 15 minutes?
Do they occur more often in the morning or early morning?
-- As usual, feel free to ignore the questions. I'm wondering if some circadian hormonal interplay is at work.
thanks rohag...usually early morning...different length....scary....panic...terrified...
each time it happens i think it is different...but it turns out to be the same s--t..
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May I suggest some very good Mindfulness books?
Search for Dr. Danny penman and Mindfulness. I just think those books are excellent.
Thanks Mulan, I just read this post again. Hope you're ok

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love again on the AS IS bus.....and hugs

I had 3 serious breakdowns....
and I didn't ask for this....
and I didn't choose to have this suffering..
NO CHOICE...it is an illness of some kind...
but I am still around as a very old person...
Why do some people think we ''choose'' this suffering? grrrrrr

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i am still here....

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little turtle, Thirty shades, Rohag, fuzzybear and all on the AS IS bus are ok AS IS...


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thanks fooZe....on to #4....

the AS IS bus is waiting at the terminal...........

3 breakdowns and a valium story here....for the little turtle.....
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Thank you for thread #4....

And for everyone being here on the AS IS bus
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fear and valium......
pleasure and pain...
i wish i knew more about mental problems...
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i am a very fearful person.....i am afraid right now....

i still have not dealt effectively with my fear and panic...
i am rereading my panic attacks workbook by david carbonell,phd.....
i still am ashamed and secretive with my friends....about this
I AM AFRAID...........on the AS IS bus....

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i am a very fearful person.....i am afraid right now....

i still have not dealt effectively with my fear and panic...
i am rereading my panic attacks workbook by david carbonell,phd.....
i still am ashamed and secretive with my friends....about this
I AM AFRAID...........on the AS IS bus....
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i can say i have anxiety and depression but i can also say
i have a problem with my fear and sadness....i am lost right now...
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i feel ashamed that i have this fear and panic problem...
i see myself as a coward....and i kept it a secret for a very long time ...
which made it worse...i am now coming out and it feels good...sometimes bad..
how could i have gotten this way.....that is something i keep looking at...
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my first panic attack came out of the blue.....
from then on ....even now...i am still frightened about this...
i turned to medicines for help....i didn't want to face my panic....
i couldn't see it for what it was...i wish i knew more...
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(((((( Little Turtle))))))

The panic is awful....
I have been chased into a dark place a lot recently by the onslaught of terror, panic and dreadful sweating attacks...
They grip from the moment I wake....

Running from them does not make you a coward although I do feel a great deal of shame that I suffer this way...
Being AS IS is very hard to accept....

Yawning can help a tiny bit, short lived but helps...
Valium and wine work better

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TS-----panic attacks are something quite different....as you know...
what i found from my own panic attacks.....it was like a seizure....
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Yes LT. I understand...
They grip you internally and externally...
Suffocating and consuming....
No place to escape to or hide...
Like a seizure is true...
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Why do some people think we ''choose'' this suffering? grrrrrr

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this is one interesting thread.......

you know, a couple years ago, I actually had a "friend" person directly say to me that I had the good life (perfect life or whatever phrase it was). cuz I didn't have to go to work everyday!!! needless to say, I NEVER spoke to that person again!

while I admit I couldn't handle the 'regular life' of many people, with the busyness and stress and all that - at the same time, I KNOW they couldn't handle my life either!! I have severe depression and anxiety disorder (panic attacks) and loads of ptsd; who in their right mind would want to trade and deal with that?!?!?!

I'm drowning in trauma and no one can see it - cuz it's all internal :''(
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