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I so dont understand how I can remember my 11 birthday but nothing about a person I had sessions with or those sessions 15 to 20 years ago or whenever I saw her. Im just guessing based on my daughters age.
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I'm so sorry, Dnester Why is your old therapist talking to your new one? I don't think that's allowed without your permission. If you don't want that, I think you have every right to speak up about it. As for your memory, 15 to 20 years ago was a long time ago. I don't think you should be expected to remember everything that happened in your life. Some events just stick in your mind more, but not everything can be remembered. So I wouldn't worry about it too much. As for the rest, I believe you can always ask your therapist for more information. I hope you'll get the help you need. Wish you good luck! Let us know how it goes. Sending many hugs to you
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I'm so sorry, Dnester Why is your old therapist talking to your new one? I don't think that's allowed without your permission. If you don't want that, I think you have every right to speak up about it. As for your memory, 15 to 20 years ago was a long time ago. I don't think you should be expected to remember everything that happened in your life. Some events just stick in your mind more, but not everything can be remembered. So I wouldn't worry about it too much. As for the rest, I believe you can always ask your therapist for more information. I hope you'll get the help you need. Wish you good luck! Let us know how it goes. Sending many hugs to you
Because I want her to talk to her. I want to know why she gave me the diagnosis she did when I dont have anything close to a Dissociative Disorder IMO. I want to know if there is some trauma I may have spoke to her about that I repressed again. I will be curious to find this information out.
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I so dont understand how I can remember my 11 birthday but nothing about a person I had sessions with or those sessions 15 to 20 years ago or whenever I saw her. Im just guessing based on my daughters age.
to understand this you will need to understand how the brain works. you can find you tube videos on the brain or visit physical health websites that have this kind of information, colleges also have classes that teach how the brain works and how it stores memories and so on.

in the mean time here's an experiment my own treatment provider used to explain things to me...

take a container, any container. the container represents the brain.

in this container put in many different things. I used sand, water, pebbles, mini objects like toy rings, toy car, scraps of fabric... these represent everything in experiences and what the senses (sight, hearing, touch, smell, taste) tell the brain...in other words everything that a memory is.

now after filling that container to its fullest try and put in something else that is very important to you. (I tried to put in gem stones for the treasures of my life)

then watch what happens.... either the last batch of important items would not go in or it over flows knocking out previously stored in the container stuff.

the brain works like that.. it sends everything we experience and everything the senses are telling the brain about our lives, decides whats important at that moment and keeps what is important and what may not be important goes to short term memory and forgotten. this way the real important stuff goes to long term memory to be stored for ever.

taking a ..........guess not diagnosing.......... that for some reason your brain decided that you didnt need to remember forever what you talked about with this past therapist...

this is actually a normal thing. I have had many treatment providers and I never remember anything about what I did with those from 5-10 and 20 years ago. even now I am integrated and I still dont remember things from therapy that long ago, why because it wasnt important to me.

I do know that if I ever have any questions all I need to do is contact those treatment providers and ask to see my records they kept on me. here in america it is the rights of patients to have copies of their records that their treatment providers keep/ have kept on them while they are/ were in treatment with them.

suggestion maybe you can contact this therapist and let them know you have questions and maybe the files will give you the answers you are looking for.
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to understand this you will need to understand how the brain works. you can find you tube videos on the brain or visit physical health websites that have this kind of information, colleges also have classes that teach how the brain works and how it stores memories and so on.

in the mean time here's an experiment my own treatment provider used to explain things to me...

take a container, any container. the container represents the brain.

in this container put in many different things. I used sand, water, pebbles, mini objects like toy rings, toy car, scraps of fabric... these represent everything in experiences and what the senses (sight, hearing, touch, smell, taste) tell the brain...in other words everything that a memory is.

now after filling that container to its fullest try and put in something else that is very important to you. (I tried to put in gem stones for the treasures of my life)

then watch what happens.... either the last batch of important items would not go in or it over flows knocking out previously stored in the container stuff.

the brain works like that.. it sends everything we experience and everything the senses are telling the brain about our lives, decides whats important at that moment and keeps what is important and what may not be important goes to short term memory and forgotten. this way the real important stuff goes to long term memory to be stored for ever.

taking a ..........guess not diagnosing.......... that for some reason your brain decided that you didnt need to remember forever what you talked about with this past therapist...

this is actually a normal thing. I have had many treatment providers and I never remember anything about what I did with those from 5-10 and 20 years ago. even now I am integrated and I still dont remember things from therapy that long ago, why because it wasnt important to me.

I do know that if I ever have any questions all I need to do is contact those treatment providers and ask to see my records they kept on me. here in america it is the rights of patients to have copies of their records that their treatment providers keep/ have kept on them while they are/ were in treatment with them.

suggestion maybe you can contact this therapist and let them know you have questions and maybe the files will give you the answers you are looking for.
My files were destroyed. Thats why I asked her to call my new therapist and signed a waiver. I am basically just going off what she remembers. If she can remember and sees many many people why cant I?
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I think its very understandable you would be nervous, Dnester. Why would your files have been destroyed? This seems very unusual.
I'm glad you have acted to coordinate care, especially due to your own lack of memory.

I think amandalouise's container metaphor was on point.

I'm glad your providers will have a chance to coordinate, and you can just share honestly. Best wishes in recovery to you!!
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I think its very understandable you would be nervous, Dnester. Why would your files have been destroyed? This seems very unusual.
I'm glad you have acted to coordinate care, especially due to your own lack of memory.

I think amandalouise's container metaphor was on point.

I'm glad your providers will have a chance to coordinate, and you can just share honestly. Best wishes in recovery to you!!
the distroying of files...yes it happens some places have a rule where 7 -10 years after no longer being their patient the files are destroyed. this is to protect the patients confidentiality. agencies sometimes change hands/ sold and courts can subpoena records. think of it this way you havent seen a therapist for 20 years and you end up in a car accident where your mentality comes into question. the court orders your health records and discovers years ago you had mental illnesses. that record ends up biting you in the behind. but say the agency you received your mental health care from has destroyed your files after you havent been their patient for 7 years. years later you have a problem that record with DID listed on your files cant come back and bite you in the behind.

some agencies put this safety measure in place back in the 1980's when laws changed allowing courts to require crisis centers, doctors and mental health agencies to comply with the courts and hand over their files and testify against their own clients.

imagine the therapist you have now going to court and testifying against youin 10-20 years for what ever you may be accused of in the future, and having to divulge all your deep dark secrets to everyone in the court room. its not fair but its the law that treatment providers have to co operate with law enforcement and court system. thats why they destroy the files. so they dont have to hand over your files to the courts and such years and decades after you have stopped seeing that therapist.
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I think its very understandable you would be nervous, Dnester. Why would your files have been destroyed? This seems very unusual.
I'm glad you have acted to coordinate care, especially due to your own lack of memory.

I think amandalouise's container metaphor was on point.

I'm glad your providers will have a chance to coordinate, and you can just share honestly. Best wishes in recovery to you!!
She said she destroys them after 7 years.
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She said she destroys them after 7 years.
Thank you, i was not understanding it had been that long. This does make perfect sense. Thank you for clarify.
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the distroying of files...yes it happens some places have a rule where 7 -10 years after no longer being their patient the files are destroyed. this is to protect the patients confidentiality. agencies sometimes change hands/ sold and courts can subpoena records. think of it this way you havent seen a therapist for 20 years and you end up in a car accident where your mentality comes into question. the court orders your health records and discovers years ago you had mental illnesses. that record ends up biting you in the behind. but say the agency you received your mental health care from has destroyed your files after you havent been their patient for 7 years. years later you have a problem that record with DID listed on your files cant come back and bite you in the behind.

some agencies put this safety measure in place back in the 1980's when laws changed allowing courts to require crisis centers, doctors and mental health agencies to comply with the courts and hand over their files and testify against their own clients.

imagine the therapist you have now going to court and testifying against youin 10-20 years for what ever you may be accused of in the future, and having to divulge all your deep dark secrets to everyone in the court room. its not fair but its the law that treatment providers have to co operate with law enforcement and court system. thats why they destroy the files. so they dont have to hand over your files to the courts and such years and decades after you have stopped seeing that therapist.
So what I did by getting my old psychologists to talk to my T. Wasnt a good idea because now it will be on my record again?! *****!
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