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Default Jan 24, 2019 at 04:17 PM
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Treatment for DID/MPD could be sooooo simple. The first step is to educate the patient's significant others about the mental illness.

Main fact: The mental illness involves memory loss/ amnesia.
Main fact: The mental illness involves memory loss/ amnesia.

Once the significant others understand this main fact, the communication problems, that DID/MPD or any other type of dissociative disorder cause, can be resolved immediately! Then the patient will not have to worry about the weirdness of this.

This one issue could have made me feel safe!
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Default Jan 24, 2019 at 04:30 PM
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If someone is in a trusting and safe, open and honest, relationship and that simple fact was used for the benefit of of that person, struggling with dissociation, that would be simple.

If someone is not in a true relationship with safety and trust, it could be an open door for gaslighting.

I don’t mean to be negative. That is honesty from my perspective.

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I feel this also goes for any MI, not only dissociative identity disorder and manic depressive disorder. Also, having said this before I would say it again and again, the healing process is not about diagnosis as much as the healing. I found out through therapy, that there is no replacement for therapy.
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I don't know. I think there is so much more to it than that. Besides, I have no significant others.
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What I am trying to explain with this post is this: Whether it is significant others or bosses, the people in your life need to know about the amnesia/memory loss. Then they can help document the switching process, aka the memory loss.

What irritates me is that mental health professionals try to claim that this mental illness is rare. Early childhood abuse and trauma is not rare! It is extremely common, unfortunately. Also memory problems in humans is not rare! We know that old people have it and it is common in old people. Educating the public that young people can have memory loss and memory problems is important and also would advance the treatment of mental illness.

Again it is mental health professionals job to heal their patients as fast as possible. Or, if at this time it is not possible to cure the mental illness, then it is the mental health professional's job to improve the quality of life of their patients in any way they can as fast as possible.

The old Freudian psycho-analysis technique of dragging out therapy as long as possible is not acceptable in this modern age. It is actually a business fraud issue which I am trying to educate lawyers about.
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?? But what would that help? Amnesia isn't the problem. It is a symptom of the problem, but not the problem.
Freudian psychoanalysis isn't a treatment for DID. Trauma therapy is, where the client learns to regulate the nervous system so that the trauma symptoms no longer overwhelm everyday functioning. Catastrophic childhood trauma changes the course of normal human development. There is no quick fix for this stuff. There is no "normal" to return to. What you can do is learn to live the best life you can with the cards you've been dealt. "Living the best life you can" with a nervous system that adapted specifically to survive chronic and unrelenting trauma is a goal that takes... as long as it needs to take.
But for me... others documenting my memory loss would do diddly squat to change how my physical being overreacts to the multiple triggers of trauma that pervade my every day life.
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Treatment for DID/MPD could be sooooo simple. The first step is to educate the patient's significant others about the mental illness.
I disagree that treatment for this illness is simple. I would venture to say that DID is one of the most complex mental health issues due to its deeply rooted trauma, memory loss, etc. I do not think saying it is simple is the way to go. (I dont mean any disrespect)
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Once the significant others understand this main fact, the communication problems, that DID/MPD or any other type of dissociative disorder cause, can be resolved immediately! Then the patient will not have to worry about the weirdness of this.

This one issue could have made me feel safe!
Resolved immediately? I am not saying that someone with DID can't be happy or have a fulfilling life but I will say that the difficulties experienced could be considered "chronic or life-long". I am not an expert on this but as far as I know there are no cures available for most mental illnesses, especially DID.

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Again it is mental health professionals job to heal their patients as fast as possible. Or, if at this time it is not possible to cure the mental illness, then it is the mental health professional's job to improve the quality of life of their patients in any way they can as fast as possible.

The old Freudian psycho-analysis technique of dragging out therapy as long as possible is not acceptable in this modern age. It is actually a business fraud issue which I am trying to educate lawyers about.
I do not think it is helpful to..sorta trivialize this mental health issue by saying that it should be cured as fast as possible or that long term therapy is dragging it out. In fact I am not understanding why you bring up lawyers and legal stuff. Since when do therapists claim they can cure this or other mental health issues? You can treat it but this is usually part of an ongoing process because there are no cures. Maybe you are lucky enough to have remission but usually you need to maintain a regimen of meds/therapy or even just therapy. If you have found the cure please share it.

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There is no cure for mental illness. That is like saying there is no cure for cancer. But there are many many strategies to work through with therapy, medication is only one catalyst to do so. A team of doctors is another, whether that be through A Freudian approach or any other.
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I don't think it's that simple, Michael W. Harris. However, I do agree that having the people in our lives understand what problems we are dealing with can be very important. This is true for any MI, not just DID. But I'd say therapy is required for many cases, as well as meds. It's not easy to deal with MI, but it can be done. I hope all of those who are struggling will feel better soon. Things can get better. Please don't give up. You're all strong, I know that. Sending many hugs to everyone
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I do not think it is helpful to..sorta trivialize this mental health issue by saying that it should be cured as fast as possible or that long term therapy is dragging it out. In fact I am not understanding why you bring up lawyers and legal stuff. Since when do therapists claim they can cure this or other mental health issues? You can treat it but this is usually part of an ongoing process because there are no cures. Maybe you are lucky enough to have remission but usually you need to maintain a regimen of meds/therapy or even just therapy. If you have found the cure please share it.
I started seeking treatment for my mental health problems after a divorce in 1991. All the psychologists and psychiatrists that I paid had good bed-side manner. They were very polite. They totally disrespected me as a human, individual, and person with two engineering degrees.

Even after I had read all the books on dissociative disorders and even paid ten thousand dollars, out of pocket, to stay in the Charter Clinic in Plano, Texas for a week, most mental health professionals totally refused to talk to me about this mental illness. (I had been told by Dr. Colin Ross's staff/nurses that he was not taking anymore patients. They said he was helping the Charter set up a program for treating dissociative disorders. I mistakenly thought he would be involved in the treatment. These highly paid mental health professionals never talked to me about the abuses/trauma that I experienced during my childhood!!!! That is the etiology of the mental illness! You say that these people are not trying to drag treatment out.)

No. Legal oversight is extremely necessary to fix the mental health system. I do not care if it is prosecutions or law suits, but legal oversight is needed.

Some people are on disability for mental health problems. I understand that talking about cures terrifies these people. I never wanted disability. I wanted to be able to work and have a significant other without the affects of this mental illness.
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Idk, everyone just thinks that I have a crappy memory not remembering my life and carries on like that just me.

I also believe that everyone is so wrapped up in their own life that if you aren’t bothersome to their physical and mental well being, they will keep you around till you do bother them. The only time a person would care or listen is when you pay them to: hence therapy.

So since this is the norm, I just don’t talk to anyone about it and let them laugh as they think that I’m either funny/goofball/oversmart person.

Like anybody really cares.

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I started seeking treatment for my mental health problems after a divorce in 1991. All the psychologists and psychiatrists that I paid had good bed-side manner. They were very polite. They totally disrespected me as a human, individual, and person with two engineering degrees.

Even after I had read all the books on dissociative disorders and even paid ten thousand dollars, out of pocket, to stay in the Charter Clinic in Plano, Texas for a week, most mental health professionals totally refused to talk to me about this mental illness. (I had been told by Dr. Colin Ross's staff/nurses that he was not taking anymore patients. They said he was helping the Charter set up a program for treating dissociative disorders. I mistakenly thought he would be involved in the treatment. These highly paid mental health professionals never talked to me about the abuses/trauma that I experienced during my childhood!!!! That is the etiology of the mental illness! You say that these people are not trying to drag treatment out.)

No. Legal oversight is extremely necessary to fix the mental health system. I do not care if it is prosecutions or law suits, but legal oversight is needed.

Some people are on disability for mental health problems. I understand that talking about cures terrifies these people. I never wanted disability. I wanted to be able to work and have a significant other without the affects of this mental illness.
Sorry, should be effects, noun, not affects, verb.
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effect is also a verb. to be fair, I think your approach to this issue is more than compromising. it is the plan of action that is the difficult part
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I am sixty-three now. I am in an assisted living facility for poor veterans. I will never be normal. I will never get any closure on this mental illness now. I have never had anyone to talk to about this mental illness. Posting on this site is it!

My Mom and Brother messed me up so bad as a child I did not have a clue that I was being abused. My Mom began telling me that it was normal for older brothers to "pick-on" their younger brothers when I was about two to two and one-half. By the time I was five I totally believed that it was normal for my brother to abuse me. My Dad was a work-a-holic medical doctor. He would not have tolerated any serious physical abuse of me but he did not pay attention to anything else. In fact he never talked to me at all.

So I had no adult to protect me or to explain the situation to me. I know that if I could have removed my emotions from the situation my brothers physical abuse would not have traumatized me so badly!

It never entered my brain to tell a preacher, teacher, or another adult that I was being abused. I totally shut down.

So now I am bitter about my family, life, and I am seriously mad at the mental health professions. Can't help it.
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Are you mad at your brother and mother as much as the mental health field?

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In AA, resentment is the number one offender as to why an alcoholic drinks and that there are 12 little steps to erase such resentments, but granted there are those that can’t let go of the past, that thrive on the angst, or just too plain lazy to go seek help.

You may have or have not tried it idk...but it has helped me to get past resentments. I still drink, but not with the hope of killing myself. Today it’s because some alters don’t want to quit to ease their pain of the past...to go numb. Some thinks it’s fun, but I have to deal with the aftermath in the morning which is no fun, but like I haven’t a million times already, kinda like the norm around here. I often ask the others to try to stop drinking, but every morning the same old sick feeling.
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