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Thanks for the reply. You must have edited your post because it was no where near this size. Someone also said they missed your post as well.




I know about the religious practices part. I think you're misinterpreting it because it's possible any patient could think their alters are demons. If what you said is true then academic professionals would not even bother diagnosing a good percentage of patients. Just because someone says something doesn't make it true. Just because someone describes an alter as a spirit does not make their diagnoses a religion.

As far as entering the body, I've read many accounts of alters living in a virtual reality, a heaven like place that all of the alters create. In fact there is/was a popular girl on YouTube who's alters do that. Also it is well know that alters can learn to send mental messages to the host, which can be perceived as sound. So there's no reason why an alter can learn the ability to send visual images to the host as well, which could be perceived by the host as an alter being outside of the body. To set such a limit is ridiculous. Are there academics who would set such a limit. Sure. There are academics who believe the Earth is flat. I personally can't imagine an academic setting such a limit on an alter. At least not an intelligent notable academic.




I used to think that alters faded away. I talked about this possibility, but admit that even academics have no tools to know for sure.




Of course, but I've learned that it's a skill. It's possible to take control. It's possible to make alters fade, although for me it takes a long time, about 1/2 year. It's even possible to create alters. I've done it and studied the process.




Exactly! That's what I said, that within a 100 years from now academics will have a much better understanding of what's happening and will surely have a vast categorical list of different types of alters, or who knows what they'll call them in a 100 years. I'm betting that that "spirits" will be included in that list as a type of alter.




Actually I reached the point where I can help myself more than some academic who spends 30 minutes with me per week, and I'm more interested in studying and researching it. I'm now nearly 100% convinced that everyone has people living inside their brain who have their own unique personalities. Yes, when academics around the world get the courage to start tackling the more religions & spiritual aspects of this phenomenon they will discover what I've seen, and then religions around the world are going to collapse. Oh wow, I can't imagine. Idk, mixed thoughts on that. Maybe it is best to leave it alone. Can you imagine if academics release evidence backed by brain scanning tools that shows spirit voices, include alters that play the role of God, are just alters. Most humans seem to be extremely emotionally fragile creatures. Maybe they need their religion. Even so, I absolutely refuse to let myself lie to people and myself by playing some role I start pretending this is all not real. Truth seekers must continue seeking truth. I for one have lost my religion and then spirituality nearly a decade ago. It was like a nuclear bomb going off. I survived, better off. Truth is best!!!!

Anyhow, I can't emphasize enough how wrong it is to say it's not an alter for the reason that an alter has learned the skill of projecting images to you. Just because someone sees a "spirit" in front of them does not mean that spirit is there outside of them. It's happening inside their brain. It is a skill, just as learning Out of Body projection and travel is a learn skill. I myself have learned to project images and scenes to my alters. My alters know how to project the same to me in addition to voices. I've heard countless accounts of alters being able to communicate with host. This knowledge may not be in the latest DID diagnoses, but that doesn't mean it's not true. The DSM changes & updates over time. Give it a few decades.
thank you for all that information. since it does not go with my own treatment and own treatment providers views I wont at this time look into it (sorry but I like the disclaimer at the bottom of every page consult with my treatment providers first before I do anything I read about online)

I am glad though that this is what has helped you. good luck to you and now Im going to leave this thread as it goes contrary to my own treatments.

one more thing no I did not edit my post, if I had you would have seen the post then later seen an edited version with the words at the end of the post that automatically goes on every editted post on psych central stating...

"editted by ... name of person doing the editing .... reason for edit... then a reason."

if you read other posts here on psych central by all the members you will sometimes see this notation. its just how psych central works. any time anyone edits their post anywhere on the forums you will see that at the bottom of the post thats been edited by the poster or the moderators.
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