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Default May 03, 2019 at 05:20 AM
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Im seeing a T rn. Monday will be our 9th and last appointment. Host mentioned that she isnt sure but has been contacted by possible alters. I myself am an alter, the names Alex. Im a 3rd degree protector.

Now host's T is a psychoanalytic and said that alternate personalities is a sign of psychosis...

Thinking we should get host to look for someone who actually believes us. Also thinking that maybe we should let T meet one of us.

Any thoughts? New T or give het another chance? Or try to not front and let host live her life thinking she faked us?
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Default May 03, 2019 at 08:52 AM
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Im seeing a T rn. Monday will be our 9th and last appointment. Host mentioned that she isnt sure but has been contacted by possible alters. I myself am an alter, the names Alex. Im a 3rd degree protector.

Now host's T is a psychoanalytic and said that alternate personalities is a sign of psychosis...

Thinking we should get host to look for someone who actually believes us. Also thinking that maybe we should let T meet one of us.

Any thoughts? New T or give het another chance? Or try to not front and let host live her life thinking she faked us?
welcome...

I see by your profile and other posts that you have schizo affective disorder. this disorder does come with things like having psychosis. psychosis can sometimes come with having alters.

psychosis alters and dissociative type alters are very very different. one being one happens during things like hallucinations and having delusional beliefs, (psychosis) and the other happens when having dissociative symptoms of feeling numb spaced out and mentally disconnected because of a trigger.

treatment providers have a way of telling the two kinds of alters apart by looking at when the alters are active, what is happening to cause the alters to take control, what the alters can and cant do. what each of the alters sense of agency is, whether there is consistency or nor, and other accompanying symptoms.

Im taking a guess here your treatment provider has been keeping track when you tell her your alters are thinking and doing and what they have told her when they talked with her. then the treatment provider knows which type of alters you have.

let me give you an example in dissociative disorders there is no such labeling as "3rd degree protector" each alter has its own sense of agency and they take control according to what triggers that they handle. there is no 1st, 2nd, 3rd degrees in this.... its just rainy took control when there was sadness and rain storms, thelma during intimacy, red when anger issues needed addressing. with DID there is no order to the alters theres just triggers and dissociation symptoms. unpredictability but consistent through out a persons whole life time.

if you and your alter told your treatment provider they were a "3rd degree protector" that tells the treatment provider that this alter is not a dissociative type but one of the other different kinds of alters that do have an order and work in "levels" "degrees" and other orderly ways.

my suggestion is just continue working with your treatment provider and if you feel you need another one ask them for a name of someone else. (sorry we cant tell you which to do, only you can decide whether to give up one therapist for another)

Last edited by FooZe; May 03, 2019 at 11:46 PM.. Reason: fixed typo at author's request
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Default May 03, 2019 at 01:14 PM
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you need to find someone trained in DID. Your therapist clearly is not. People who are trained in DID will not need your help in diagnosing DID, it will be obvious to them.
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Default May 03, 2019 at 07:06 PM
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Hi Katme, Alex...

Was it your decision or your T's to have Monday be the last session together?

I also am not sure what what "...she faked us" means?

I was working with the same T for 4 years and she missed some major signs, behaviors and in some ways, almost made things worse for me. It was not her fault exactly, as I was very good at hiding what was happening and in denial myself. It has only been in the past few months that I've been open and honest about what I've been dealing with for decades. Once she started to "see" me, she knew she was not skilled or knowledgeable enough to help me through the next phase. In some ways she did me a favor by passing me onto someone else...although at first it felt like being dumped, or like I was too crazy or not worth helping. Now I understand that I really need someone who can hold space for the process, who has been through it before.

I think it is not uncommon for some T's to have to learn "on the fly" when they have their first clients present with DID.

The bigger question is what do YOU need. It's not always clear until we've gone down the wrong path. You need to be believed, validated, safe and allowed to be exactly as you are.

Let us know how it goes...and nice to meet you.

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Default May 08, 2019 at 02:26 AM
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I had DID. I've been integrated for 5 years. I also have bipolar 1 disorder with psychosis and PTSD with psychosis. When I had parts, one was psychotic. She was the internalization of my schizophrenic parents and sister. It took a really astute psychiatrist to sort out all the psychotic episodes I was having. Some needed to be medicated and hospitalized to treat. Some required DID and trauma work in addition. Now that I'm integrated, all my psychotic episodes are much more straight forward. My psychiatrist knows what med combinations work in a crisis. Treating a psychotic part is complicated and can be risky. If you know you have a psychotic part your therapist must talk to your psychiatrist. Finding a psychiatrist that accepts a DID diagnosis isn't easy. My advice, let your therapist talk with him about it. You'll have a better result.
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