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Old 05-09-2020, 09:49 PM   #1
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We were hospitalized for ER surgery. Couldn't walk after. Insiders being kept quiet by one who does medical stuff. Then five days into our stay, suddenly a cacophony of voices screaming we had to get out of there now. Suddenly shakily on walker, in hospital gown we are heading for the door. Everyone was panicking wanting to run out. Totally unable to walk.

Nurses came running in. Thought we were in severe pain and loaded us up with meds. We lied to Doctor to get released a few days later. We never do that. Never lie. Never endanger our surgical recovery.

Nobody inside seemed to know what caused this. Then yesterday we had two rehab home session in a row. During the second one felt that panic starting. Insiders said it was everyone in the masks. Had to get away from them. Whatever it took.

Know we have trouble wearing a mask. It reminds us of events during abuse. We start holding our breath. But don't understand why other people wearing them is so affecting us.

Anyone else having trouble with other people in masks? Or any insights?
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Old 05-10-2020, 02:19 PM   #2
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We were hospitalized for ER surgery. Couldn't walk after. Insiders being kept quiet by one who does medical stuff. Then five days into our stay, suddenly a cacophony of voices screaming we had to get out of there now. Suddenly shakily on walker, in hospital gown we are heading for the door. Everyone was panicking wanting to run out. Totally unable to walk.

Nurses came running in. Thought we were in severe pain and loaded us up with meds. We lied to Doctor to get released a few days later. We never do that. Never lie. Never endanger our surgical recovery.

Nobody inside seemed to know what caused this. Then yesterday we had two rehab home session in a row. During the second one felt that panic starting. Insiders said it was everyone in the masks. Had to get away from them. Whatever it took.

Know we have trouble wearing a mask. It reminds us of events during abuse. We start holding our breath. But don't understand why other people wearing them is so affecting us.

Anyone else having trouble with other people in masks? Or any insights?
I never had a problem with mask wearing. even at holloween, or any other daily or special events where costumes, masks, mask making in elementary school you name it not a problem and heres why... since I was DID from very early childhood any time I got triggered by something I would dissociate and the alter whos job purpose reason for being created by my minds dissociative abilities took care of the triggering situation. example if thunder storms was the problem then rainy took care of it. example of now my mask alter would do things I remember being in 2nd grade and we had to make these paper masks and decorate them for thanksgiving. I remember looking at the paper with the drawing of a mask and knowing I had to cut the drawing out, color it and then put feathers, glitter, string on it. I remember feeling my dissociative symptom of sinking the next thing I remember is sitting at my desk holding a completed mask. another situation halloween my parents had bought me a casper and wendy plastic masks and were asking me which one I wanted to wear that night. the next thing I know Im home again from trick or treating holding wendy mask in one hand and a bucket of candy in the other happy that I went trick or treating and got some candy.

my point is since here in america masks are part of almost everyones normal every day and special events life like holidays, birthday parties, school activities, where DID is concerned there is ..... Usually...... an alter that deals with these normal part of life events like mask wearing if thats a trigger. DID is a dissociative disorder where if someone is triggered another takes control and handles that trigger. so ask inside and find out who is the one that usually handles these triggering mask situations and ask their help.

my suggestion since you are co conscious (can hear the insiders) maybe ask inside who is the one that takes care of problems associated with masks all through out your life time and ask that alter to handle the situation for you.

my next suggestion is contact your treatment provider they may have suggestions on how to handle hospitalizations, covid 19 and mask wearing.
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Thanks. We used your advise to find out who. Discovered there were many and whoever helps was either one of them or not around. But just trying your suggestion helped. Will continue to try.

It also raised and unknown issue. We have been doing PT at home after surgery. All wear masks but our regular guy arrives, stands 6+feet from the door with his mask down and says just want you to see my face and that I'm smiling. No problem. Due to a schedule conflict, had two others come in a row that arrived masked and stayed masked. That panicky feeling was coming back. Luckily they left before it got serious.

Don't know what this is all about. Thanks for helping.
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We were hospitalized for ER surgery. Couldn't walk after. Insiders being kept quiet by one who does medical stuff. Then five days into our stay, suddenly a cacophony of voices screaming we had to get out of there now. Suddenly shakily on walker, in hospital gown we are heading for the door. Everyone was panicking wanting to run out. Totally unable to walk.

Nurses came running in. Thought we were in severe pain and loaded us up with meds. We lied to Doctor to get released a few days later. We never do that. Never lie. Never endanger our surgical recovery.

Nobody inside seemed to know what caused this. Then yesterday we had two rehab home session in a row. During the second one felt that panic starting. Insiders said it was everyone in the masks. Had to get away from them. Whatever it took.

Know we have trouble wearing a mask. It reminds us of events during abuse. We start holding our breath. But don't understand why other people wearing them is so affecting us.

Anyone else having trouble with other people in masks? Or any insights?


I have an issue with people in gloves, a huge issue with it (and I know it isn't the same,) but it also connects to my abuse, so I hate it- I think people in gloves are

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I don't know how I feel about masks. I would refuse to wear one myself, (simply because I would worry about breathing), other people in them.... I do feel anxious about it, but I don't get as bad as the gloves

I wish gloves were banned
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I have an issue with people in gloves, a huge issue with it (and I know it isn't the same,) but it also connects to my abuse, so I hate it- I think people in gloves are

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I don't know how I feel about masks. I would refuse to wear one myself, (simply because I would worry about breathing), other people in them.... I do feel anxious about it, but I don't get as bad as the gloves

I wish gloves were banned
here in america, in many cities and towns its manditory to wear masks any time you go out of your home, here many towns cities and states are in lock down with curfews where only designated essential people are allowed to go to work then home again. my point is that its not a choice for most here thanks to coronavirus 19. we dont get to choose whether to wear one or not, we wear one because its the law / state orders to do so. think of it like if your local government told you that in order for you to go grocery shopping, go get TP, your meds, travel in public transportation (bus, plane, taxi, sub way system) you have to wear a mask or you would be refused service or getting on that bus, plan, taxi, subway. thats how it is here. we dont have a choice. our government has said this is what we must do so we do it. right now even professionals like physicians and mental health treatment providers are not seeing anyone who does not have a mask on in the waiting room. if you dont want to wear the mask you have to stay home. see your doctors / therapists by way of phone calling or video calling. one of my children has not been outside for over 3 months because she refuses to wear a mask and here its the government orders to do so. many public and private schools and colleges across america are now closed children are being homeschooled by their parents using corriculum put together by the childrens teachers. once a week I put on my mask, gather the childrens work for the past week, take it to the drop off points for each of the childrens teachers, collect the packets of school work for the next week, take it home, take off my mask and through out the week teach homeschool the children. when I need to go to the grocery store that mask goes on. then when I get home it comes off. its just the way it is here in america now and masks are going to be mostly manditory for a long time here according to various state governments until a vaccine is developed, wearing masks is our new normal.
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here in america, in many cities and towns its manditory to wear masks any time you go out of your home, here many towns cities and states are in lock down with curfews where only designated essential people are allowed to go to work then home again. my point is that its not a choice for most here thanks to coronavirus 19. we dont get to choose whether to wear one or not, we wear one because its the law / state orders to do so. think of it like if your local government told you that in order for you to go grocery shopping, go get TP, your meds, travel in public transportation (bus, plane, taxi, sub way system) you have to wear a mask or you would be refused service or getting on that bus, plan, taxi, subway. thats how it is here. we dont have a choice. our government has said this is what we must do so we do it. right now even professionals like physicians and mental health treatment providers are not seeing anyone who does not have a mask on in the waiting room. if you dont want to wear the mask you have to stay home. see your doctors / therapists by way of phone calling or video calling. one of my children has not been outside for over 3 months because she refuses to wear a mask and here its the government orders to do so. many public and private schools and colleges across america are now closed children are being homeschooled by their parents using corriculum put together by the childrens teachers. once a week I put on my mask, gather the childrens work for the past week, take it to the drop off points for each of the childrens teachers, collect the packets of school work for the next week, take it home, take off my mask and through out the week teach homeschool the children. when I need to go to the grocery store that mask goes on. then when I get home it comes off. its just the way it is here in america now and masks are going to be mostly manditory for a long time here according to various state governments until a vaccine is developed, wearing masks is our new normal.


and what about gloves

do the US also suggest you wear those while you are out?

the mask thing must be tough, but needs must. better to be safe than sorry
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do the US also suggest you wear those while you are out?

the mask thing must be tough, but needs must. better to be safe than sorry
gloves are manditory for certain professions and places here in america but not all places and people example care providers yes, the general public no but we do have a majority of general public that have voluntarily for their own self care taken to wearing gloves. some have even invested in some pretty cool vintage style glove wearing. while shopping I saw a woman and her children in white long gloves that the victorian era wore, I can see many glove styles of days gone by coming back into style and franklly some people sure can wear gloves and look great doing so
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We know the rationale is to not spread the virus , but that good reason doesn't help us. The doc put us on anti anxiety med. Cuz sometimes we absolutely have to go out. Found a lot of ways to get out of it.

But if we dissociate, we don't accomplish the tasks we left the house for. We have then have to suffer flashbacks for a day or two. It's not like there some place we can go.
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It's less the actual masks than how ppl are literal in fear of any coming anywhere within 6 feet of each other now .the governors who say you must wear it even if theres no one near you on the street or on foot and bike trails. Soon they will use drone to monitor compliance 24/7
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