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Default Dec 14, 2018 at 01:23 PM
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But yeah, I guess I can understand why you build up alternative characters to draw people in like you do. In a way, doing so is not all that dissimilar to playing a video game; the girl is your character and the people you're trying to attract is the objective of the game. I see nothing wrong with what you do. You have a need that needs to be filled and building up your girl is the most viable way to get your needs met. Most of PC might not agree with me, but I'm not one to judge people based on their way of surviving in this world. We all have our methods and we all hurt people in life no matter if we intend to or not.

If there is one thing I have learned in my life though, it's that getting help the "normal" way (I.E therapy, medication, ECT) isn't always a viable option for people. Not everybody can be helped the same way. Yeah, maybe if you're a normie or you haven't had a completely screwed up life, therapy would work. For the rest of us, we have limited options for survival and achieving any kind of happiness.

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Here is how I see the world and others. The question is: how different is it for others to experience the social interactions:

When I first meet someone I usually try to gently take over as the dominant one. The reasons I do is to quickly test the person and whether he or she is useful or useless. Also in almost any conversation I know that Im simply smarter so obviously I should lead the conversation. I know only 2 people who I genuinely think are on my level.

If the person is found to be useless then I will limit my interactions with her or him to zero or nearly zero.

If the person shows the potential to be useful (for example he has a business with an interesting product that I may help him sell for a %, a cop who may share information or its that rare someone who is able to maintain a high level conversation) then I will put on the mask of an interesting guy who the person should communicate with for mutual benefit. For example towards the businessman Id be playing the role of a great salesman with a vision and a natural talent in marketing "which can be used for mutual benefit", towards the cop I will show impressive knowledge of the stock exchange and so on.

Either way: with useful people I catch their minds and show my value.

As a result I have about 20 close buddies of both genders. New people come in (several a year) while some old who have become useless are discarded.

Im 41 and I live alone. There were about 10-12 girls who were into me during my life, I mean to the point of being ready to marry me. Yet none of them was what I truly wanted. Most of them got traumatised to a certain degree by how our relationships had ended. Right now Im single and my interest in women is declining, although I enjoy charming ladies here and there, but just for fun and to enjoy their frustrations. Oh yes I also used to torment girls as I was younger. To give them lots of hope only to ghost them later was my main trait. Sometimes I would come back to them and all of them would always welcome me back. But Id betray them again.

I visited a therapist to discuss my life 4-5 years ago, but she didnt really like talking to me so there was no second meeting.

So am I normal or not?
Reading this post is like reading about the things narcissists say and do to be honest with you. You interact with others for your own selfish reasons, what others can do to benefit you. You also prefer to have all the control in relationships too. If you don't believe me then read about narcissists and compare that with what you shared here.
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A few years ago I solved the issue of having intelligent conversations. I met a what appeared to be a copy of me in a pc game and got catfished VERY badly but its fine, lesson learned. It was a guy pretending to be a girl rofl but he showed me the way to play with very intelligent people.

I have a female profile on several dating sites, my girl is above average looking but she is not a model; she is a typical "cute every day girl".

For the rest I have created a real femme fatale lol; she is VERY erudite, very sensual, ultra sweet; very delicate and at times she can be very vulnerable as well. If a man starts chatting to her then he gets lost in conversations and falls in love, providing great fun for me The only problem here is that most guys on dating sites are commoners, so it takes 100s of short conversations to see whether the person has a highly developed abstract thinking and imagination.

But it allows me to maintain sufficient intelligent chat partners while lying about my gender.

The "script" of the catfishing movie (and I see it as a movie where the interested men are viewers without realizing it lol) is something like this: out of nowhere a totally stunning girl arrives and takes the guys psyche on another level. (only those guys who are worth it get a long exposure to my girl). When the man becomes addicted to this highly unusual girl who appeared in his life: the girl tests the addiction and his level of interest all the time so I know where the victim is emotionally and slowly the movie of the hooked viewer is watching becomes more and more a nightmare as the girl shows more and more red flags but the viewer can not walk away; he is stunned since he has never talked to such an unusual girl in his life. As their psyche keeps deteriorating and when they start crying for this fictional girl; its then when great conversations generally occur. I know this sounds complex but its totally doable and is great fun
Look up psychopaths too, you are showing the criteria for these individuals more so then the typical run of the mill narcissist. They typically find narcissists useful, and they realize that the best way to get a narcissist is to flatter them and often the most pleasure comes from finally discarding a narcissist, while they are cunning and smart their weakness is flattery and psychopaths rather especially enjoy playing with them but especially enjoy breaking them and tossing them too. Also, psychopaths tend to find other human beings repulsive and disposable as you have described how you felt when you were younger.

In all your posts you have clearly shown you have no empathy. This is a part of your brain that is underdeveloped so you will never feel love nor will being loved be anything that you benefit from either. You never really feel pleasure either, just something fleeting that is only experienced when besting someone else the way you have described you practice.

So, the answer to your main question that you presented as your thread title, the answer is most people are NOT the way you have described yourself being. Perhaps you should read about them.

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Doesn't have to read about them since he knows himself & his behaviors so well.

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But yeah, I guess I can understand why you build up alternative characters to draw people in like you do. In a way, doing so is not all that dissimilar to playing a video game; the girl is your character and the people you're trying to attract is the objective of the game. I see nothing wrong with what you do. You have a need that needs to be filled and building up your girl is the most viable way to get your needs met. Most of PC might not agree with me, but I'm not one to judge people based on their way of surviving in this world. We all have our methods and we all hurt people in life no matter if we intend to or not.
Its not about hurting them imo, its about mentoring them because the best changes in ones psyche usually happen under severe stress. Its where people discover who they truly are. And my char discovers that as well, "how deep is this guy?" "is he going to react to me saying that I wont be around for the evening since Im having a visitior".. Its like the game of chess vs one's psyche; or with other words as you rightfully said it yourself "as everything in life". And let me assure you: a good; long; deep game and the psychological connection established during the process can be quite entertaining and interesting as well

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If there is one thing I have learned in my life though, it's that getting help the "normal" way (I.E therapy, medication, ECT) isn't always a viable option for people. Not everybody can be helped the same way. Yeah, maybe if you're a normie or you haven't had a completely screwed up life, therapy would work. For the rest of us, we have limited options for survival and achieving any kind of happiness.
for me its quite simple: therapists ALWAYS try to limit your freedoms by making you think about certain things. I mean going to a therapist is just not my thing really. Also therapy doesnt work on me; same with by far most commercials. When I watch a commercial I always try to grade it for originality, creativity etc but not for the product itself. Same here I guess; I would be more interested in hearing why some guy sits there charging €60 an hour (I live in the Eurozone) while pretending to give a **** lol
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Look up psychopaths too, you are showing the criteria for these individuals more so then the typical run of the mill narcissist. They typically find narcissists useful, and they realize that the best way to get a narcissist is to flatter them and often the most pleasure comes from finally discarding a narcissist, while they are cunning and smart their weakness is flattery and psychopaths rather especially enjoy playing with them but especially enjoy breaking them and tossing them too. Also, psychopaths tend to find other human beings repulsive and disposable as you have described how you felt when you were younger.

Well I can be extremely delicate as well and in fact I can genuinely feel connection with very rare type of girls.

Flattery is lame and I use this weapon only rarely when I think its the best weapon to use in that particular situation but then again its rare and its not something from my main arsenal. Someone who flatters others more than very rarely is giving away a tell imo. "I want something from you"; giving this tell away can compromise the entire setup. So Im very sorry but your assumption about me using it all the time is wrong.
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Default Dec 14, 2018 at 03:32 PM
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Inaccurate, I am not diagnosing you, and am not a professional. My input is just my opinion of what "could be" based on what I have read etc. You don't need to convince me about things that do or don't fit either. You know yourself better than I ever could.
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for me its quite simple: therapists ALWAYS try to limit your freedoms by making you think about certain things. I mean going to a therapist is just not my thing really. Also therapy doesnt work on me; same with by far most commercials. When I watch a commercial I always try to grade it for originality, creativity etc but not for the product itself. Same here I guess; I would be more interested in hearing why some guy sits there charging €60 an hour (I live in the Eurozone) while pretending to give a **** lol

Oh man, I couldn't agree more, both on therapist and commercials. Last time I tried therapy, it didn't go over so well for me. I didn't want to do the work because it's boring af and I would rather spend my time doing things I want to do. I mean, what would you rather do in your time? Write a boring journal or play a video game? Not to mention, I am more self aware than most so I can guarantee that no therapist isn't going to tell me something I don't already know about myself.

As for commercials, I know they're all B.S. Fact of the matter is we need stupid people to buy stupid crap for society to function. I'm not one of those stupid people that can be swayed by a commercial. I mean, if you want me to buy something, give me some hard evidence that it would serve my purposes or GTFO. If anything, I am more prone to getting pissed at the commercial for daring to interrupt what I was doing. I can't tell you how many times I was streaming music on Pandora and an ad that was clearly made for the lowest common denominator of human stupidity interrupts me and I feel a sudden urge to throw my phone against a wall lol
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As for commercials, I know they're all B.S. Fact of the matter is we need stupid people to buy stupid crap for society to function. I'm not one of those stupid people that can be swayed by a commercial. I mean, if you want me to buy something, give me some hard evidence that it would serve my purposes or GTFO. If anything, I am more prone to getting pissed at the commercial for daring to interrupt what I was doing. I can't tell you how many times I was streaming music on Pandora and an ad that was clearly made for the lowest common denominator of human stupidity interrupts me and I feel a sudden urge to throw my phone against a wall lol

my point was that it takes the mind of a commoner to accept so called therapy where some guy tries to make you sad and limit you. The same type of a commoner who allows the commercials to influence his or her decisions.
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Just to set things straight in your post above, for some reason it says originally posted by Open Eyes, that is incorrect, what is quoted was not anything I posted but instead was DarknessIsMyFriend's post.
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my point was that it takes the mind of a commoner to accept so called therapy where some guy tries to make you sad and limit you. The same type of a commoner who allows the commercials to influence his or her decisions.

Yup. Which is exactly why I won't go to therapy again, unless it's to get something I want out of a therapist or the system.

I remember all too fondly what all of the therapists I went to when I was still a child/teen told me. They all wanted to take my video games away because I was spending too much time on them instead of socializing like a normal kid when I didn't want to connect with the normies since I have nothing in common with them.


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Yup. Which is exactly why I won't go to therapy again, unless it's to get something I want out of a therapist or the system.

I remember all too fondly what all of the therapists I went to when I was still a child/teen told me. They all wanted to take my video games away because I was spending too much time on them instead of socializing like a normal kid when I didn't want to connect with the normies since I have nothing in common with them.


So yeah, I understand what you're saying all too well
The weirdest thing that DRIVES most of their minds is sex btw. Hey Im not asexual at all and sometimes I think that sex can be a fun and an enjoyable activity but its SUCH a point of pressure for many of them, I mean weakness of course.
Take a look at most married people btw, did you notice that most of married guys LISTEN to their wives and care about their opinions. A basic and very brutal example of it is not allowing the man to drink beer or and to go to a game. Just saying something from hollywood but I know quite a few married people where the man is limited in his options and very basic freedoms. And all of this while we humans are deeply polygamous and polyamorious by nature. And marriage is one of the things that any therapist will present to you as the so called norm as well lol

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What a disgrace of a mother you have! Instead of recognizing her child's unique talents she was too limited to accept it, to promote it in you and to let you develop the talent of money making. Your mother abused you by denying you to expand yourself.
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What a disgrace of a mother you have! Instead of recognizing her child's unique talents she was too limited to accept it, to promote it in you and to let you develop the talent of money making. Your mother abused you by denying you to expand yourself.

Right?

All my mother wanted to do was have absolute control of my life. She literally lied to the doctors, telling them I had all of these mental health issues that I didn't have so they would prescribe me 8-9 different medications that I didn't need just so I would be easier to control. When I wouldn't bend to her will, she would have me locked up in psych wards just so she could be in control of me.

Well, I eventually caught onto her B.S and started learning all that I could from books and the internet. I was forced to self teach myself the skills that I know today because she didn't want to teach me how to survive in the real world. I self taught myself what I know about manipulation, hacking, money, among other things. Finally, her health started failing since she was diagnosed with lung cancer. By then, I had learned enough to outwit and deceive her. She had no more power over me. She couldn't overpower me physically and she couldn't do **** to me when I wasn't in the house.

I found such irony to be utterly delightful
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The weirdest thing that DRIVES most of their minds is sex btw. Hey Im not asexual at all and sometimes I think that sex can be a fun and an enjoyable activity but its SUCH a point of pressure for many of them, I mean weakness of course.
Take a look at most married people btw, did you notice that most of married guys LISTEN to their wives and care about their opinions. A basic and very brutal example of it is not allowing the man to drink beer or and to go to a game. Just saying something from hollywood but I know quite a few married people where the man is limited in his options and very basic freedoms. And all of this while we humans are deeply polygamous and polyamorious by nature. And marriage is one of the things that any therapist will present to you as the so called norm as well lol

Yeah, not only to marriages greatly limit freedom, but they outright ruin lives. If you're a man in a marriage, the woman can divorce you and steal half of your stuff and there is little you can do to contest because courts almost always side with the woman. She can accuse you of rape or abuse and the media would be all over you like vultures, even if you're completely innocent. If you have kids, she can make up some lies and take off with your children.

If anything, it's only logical to not limit yourself to one person your whole life. Yes, humans are polygamous and polyamorious by nature, however, it is also unwise to expect one person to not eventually use, betray, abandon, or flat out get bored with you later down the line. Humans are self serving by nature and expecting somebody to not abandon you 10, 20, 30, or even 50 years down the line when anything can change with a person is like giving a serial killer a gun and expecting him not to use it on you.

In fact, I have a saying: The three greatest scams of all time are marriage, organized religion, and politics.
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Well the marriage as we know it today is a product of organised religion or church. Its them who used to limit our freedom for centuries, its their legacy that the society still uses to limit us so yes, theres nothing right about the organised religion.
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eh, if so then the three greatest scam artists are Robin Hood, Carmen Sandiego and Ceyser Möze, but I could care less
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eh, if so then the three greatest scam artists are Robin Hood, Carmen Sandiego and Ceyser Möze, but I could care less

I would argue that Robin Hood is a hero but that's just me. Same with Al Capone. Both people screwed over the rich to help those in need. Granted the latter was probably a little too ruthless on his dealings of those who ****ed him over; at least he helped the poor and didn't overcharge on loans, unlike big banks today.

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