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Default Oct 27, 2019 at 10:13 AM
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I was told if I have ASD, It’s not important for me to know, and I am better off not knowing ever as I will “heal” or “function” better....
Why does anyone else in the world get to understand themselves better, but I have to be a walking mystery? If you are suffering from schizophrenia, you are told. If you have cancer , you’re told. If you have ADD, you’re told..... I don’t get it..
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I don't know the answer to this. I presume it's just the perspective some mental health professionals have. A different mental health professional might well have a different approach. I stumbled around the mental health care system where I live for around 20 years before I finally left if all behind. And I never got a diagnosis. In my case, though, I presume it had to do with my age. I think there comes a point in life where mental health professionals figure it's just too late to make it worth worrying about. I don't know... maybe they're right.

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I am sorry you are struggling. But there are lots of people who feel like they are a walking mystery to themselves. We are all just trying to get better.

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I was told if I have ASD, It’s not important for me to know, and I am better off not knowing ever as I will “heal” or “function” better....
Why does anyone else in the world get to understand themselves better, but I have to be a walking mystery? If you are suffering from schizophrenia, you are told. If you have cancer , you’re told. If you have ADD, you’re told..... I don’t get it..
Foucault, when speaking about identity politics, argued that, while identities can be useful (politically), they're also limiting, and organizing around identities has its dangers. One of those pertinent to this discussion is the tendency to conform one's behavior to one's identity. The shrinks call it self-fulfilling prophecy.

I can count on one hand the number of people I've related to, and most of my thoughts, behaviors and emotional states were mostly a mystery to me and to anyone with whom I shared my true feelings. Until a shrink suggested a certain label. And yeah, it certainly helped me understand myself, so I get wanting to know. On the other hand, if we become too enamored with a label, we may lose ourselves. There were times when I would question whether my thoughts or behaviors were simply my way of expressing myself or were a result of a personality disorder. After a certain point, I stopped caring. It can be a helpful guideline, but it won't tell you who you are.
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Foucault, when speaking about identity politics, argued that, while identities can be useful (politically), they're also limiting, and organizing around identities has its dangers. One of those pertinent to this discussion is the tendency to conform one's behavior to one's identity. The shrinks call it self-fulfilling prophecy.


I can count on one hand the number of people I've related to, and most of my thoughts, behaviors and emotional states were mostly a mystery to me and to anyone with whom I shared my true feelings. Until a shrink suggested a certain label. And yeah, it certainly helped me understand myself, so I get wanting to know. On the other hand, if we become too enamored with a label, we may lose ourselves. There were times when I would question whether my thoughts or behaviors were simply my way of expressing myself or were a result of a personality disorder. After a certain point, I stopped caring. It can be a helpful guideline, but it won't tell you who you are.


No it wont tell me who i am but you wouldnt go forward with treating someone with cancer because theyll “respond to treatment” better.... that seems immoral to me... if you go to a dentist theyll tell you you have a cavity and fill it. Not say “ does it really matter? Just brush your teeth better”... idk what makes mental health any different... ESPECIALLY if it’s behavioral.... that’s why so many kids with bad behavior get WORSE because people dont want to label a child and they treat the symptoms and those meds make their actions a lot worse... it may not matter to everyone. But it certainly matters to me. i think i should at least have an option to know?
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No it wont tell me who i am but you wouldnt go forward with treating someone with cancer because theyll “respond to treatment” better.... that seems immoral to me... if you go to a dentist theyll tell you you have a cavity and fill it. Not say “ does it really matter? Just brush your teeth better”... idk what makes mental health any different... ESPECIALLY if it’s behavioral....
Because a mental health label is very different from and far more complicated than either cancer or a cavity. Even if the current diagnostic methods used for mental illness weren't hotly debated, which they are, they're mostly used for insurance purposes. Sure, it might help some people and give them peace of mind to know what their "label" is, but research into the subject has shown the opposite to be true for most people, hence why shrinks are hesitant to focus too much on labels.

If you really want to know, take an MMPI from a psychologist who's qualified in administering one, and then demand to know the results.
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What has helped me is to know the names of the feelings or issues I experience. Like place attachment, intergenerational trauma, anxious avoidance and so on. There isn't one thing or label that fits. But lots of expressions for things I experience which I can then look up and feel "better" about.
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Best to avoid labels entirely. Just be a walking mystery as we all are!

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No it wont tell me who i am but you wouldnt go forward with treating someone with cancer because theyll “respond to treatment” better.... that seems immoral to me... if you go to a dentist theyll tell you you have a cavity and fill it. Not say “ does it really matter? Just brush your teeth better”... idk what makes mental health any different... ESPECIALLY if it’s behavioral.... that’s why so many kids with bad behavior get WORSE because people dont want to label a child and they treat the symptoms and those meds make their actions a lot worse... it may not matter to everyone. But it certainly matters to me. i think i should at least have an option to know?

People who deal with behavior from people in the narcissism/psychopathy spectrum for a long time often show behavior that is similar to behavior from people who have something that is called ASD, this may or may not explain the behavior of people who have behavior that matches with ASD in some way.

A person getting a label ASD may cause a person to think they have disabilities they don't really have, this can hold a person back in life. So a person might think "I can't do this because I have ASD, or I do it that way because I have ASD" instead of understanding the cause behind the behavior regardless if an ASD label matches well or not.

ASD is probable one of the most misdiagnosed diagnoses, meaning a lot of people who get this diagnose simply need some time to recover from difficult circumstances and need some support with problems they encounter. Getting an ASD diagnose may cause them to give up dreams or wishes, thinking that they can't do it because they have ASD, while in reality there isn't really something that make them not being able to do that.
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