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Default Apr 22, 2018 at 07:28 AM
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https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/l...g-Machine.html

This event happened in early 2009. A 15 month old turned on a washing machine his 4 year old sister climbed into while playing hide and seek. His sister woulda been 13 if she lived. He gotta be 10 years old now.

I'm just wondering if there was ever a second degree murder charge against the boy. If he's not put away in jail, maybe juvie til he's 21, idk. If nothing ever happened to him legally, did his parents ever forgive him?

Because if these were my kids, I'll NEVER forgive him. Because of his senseless act, that little girl never got to experience kindergarten, birthday parties, sleepovers, start of middle school, boy crushes and popularity, etc. The parents would never see her graduate high school, get her first job and car, get married and have kids.

I cringe at the thought of anyone hurting a child, even if it's done by another child.
 
 
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Default Apr 22, 2018 at 07:42 AM
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A 15 month old doesn’t understand cause and effect of what happened. This incident would just be thought of as an accident.

Now if the person was in their 20’s and had a condition where they didn’t understand cause and effect, there probably would be an arrest and a trial and I’m not sure what would happen to them.

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Default Apr 22, 2018 at 07:48 AM
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Right. No wonder I never found the part where he got arrested, went to trial, or did some serious jail time, or at least juvie til he's 21. I suppose if it happened, the article woulda mentioned it lol.

In my current town, 12 years ago, a 13 year old fired a rifle into the ceiling of his middle school. He then tried to fire at the principal but the gun jammed. He did it bc he was emulating Columbine, and he even wore a trench coat. Anyway, he was arrested and stayed in Juvie til he turned 21.
 
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Default Apr 22, 2018 at 09:01 AM
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Are you serious? A 15 month old is a toddler, just out of infancy, with absolutely no ability to comprehend that pushing or pulling a button on a machine could hurt anyone. I assure you that the toddler had zero understanding that his action killed his sister.

I'm having a hard time believing that you're serious about suggesting that the toddler should have received jail time. He was probably still in diapers. What happened was purely accidental.

Your question is very strange.
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Default Apr 22, 2018 at 09:36 AM
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In regards to whether the parents "forgive" him, you should be asking if they forgive themselves. The responsibility rests solely on the parents shoulders here.
 
 
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Considering the other posts, Ruby, I personally find it distressing to fixate on what types of legal recourse is involved with juvenile cases.
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If anything, the parents would be charged.
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I would hope the parents would be charged. 15months old has no concept of right or wrong
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It’s impossible to watch your kids constantly 24/7. They will run off and get into stuff. The adults have other things in their lives to worry about, such as work
 
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It’s impossible to watch your kids constantly 24/7. They will run off and get into stuff. The adults have other things in their lives to worry about, such as work
Thats why parents have baby sitters or day care while they are at work. 15 months is too young to be left alone period. I really do not understand this statement at all to your first post.
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It’s impossible to watch your kids constantly 24/7. They will run off and get into stuff. The adults have other things in their lives to worry about, such as work
As a parent it is your responsibility to ensure that your young children are in a safe environment and supervised all the time. That is how parenting works. I have four children and they were all born within four years. I know what it's like to be a momma juggling many things. That does not alleviate you from your responsibility. This tragedy was 100% preventable.
 
 
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Ruby, you're kidding, right?
 
 
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It’s impossible to watch your kids constantly 24/7. They will run off and get into stuff. The adults have other things in their lives to worry about, such as work
I don't necessarily believe that the parents deserve to be charged. They were irresponsible no doubt, but I don't know the circumstances surrounding their absence. People do make mistakes and if they're normal human beings, they feel guilty.
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What made you change your opinion?
She didn't. She is alleviating the parents of blame to continue to blame the baby.
 
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Default Apr 22, 2018 at 02:04 PM
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The baby wouldn't have understood the danger, they should have been supervised when they were playing hide and seek. Why was the baby messing with the washing machine?
 
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The baby wouldn't have understood the danger, they should have been supervised when they were playing hide and seek. Why was the baby messing with the washing machine?
I doubt the baby intentionally started the washing machine. That would be a very intelligent 15 month old child.
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I can understand parents being charged when they're willfully ignorant, like in cases where children die as they're on a drug binge.
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How does a toddler and four year old get up on top of a washing machine in the first place? How does a four year old intentionally force themself and fold themself up into a washer? How does a toddler know how to operate a washing machine? They don't. I am highly suspect of this.
 
 
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Default Apr 22, 2018 at 04:11 PM
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I’m getting a chuckle from this thread.

You never take your eyes off a toddler and small children. Heck, I didn’t take my eyes off my kids for eighteen years! Lol.

I doubt they would charge the parents with anything if they were taking reasonable care of the children. This would just be a tragic accident. In the blink of an eye a young child can get killed right with the parent nearby. I know a person who was holding her child’s hand and he drowned in the pool without her noticing!

I didn’t read the article. It could be fake news. It’s funny how we are all getting so sucked in on this thread.

Ruby, if you do have a disorder and don’t understand social cues, you are really provoking disbelief in others here. I can accept you just as you are coming across. Maybe you are completely real and have a serious disorder.

It is strange how you don’t respond to lots of our questions, though.

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It’s impossible to watch your kids constantly 24/7. They will run off and get into stuff. The adults have other things in their lives to worry about, such as work
I hope and pray that if you ever, ever have kids that you take about 10 parenting classes beforehand. No 4 year old, and certainly NO 15 month old, should ever, under ANY circumstances, be unsupervised. Not for 1 minute.
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