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#21
If you only made 11k there is no way you owe anyone any money. What are you stressing about? You can’t live on 11k so who can ask you to pay anything back? I can’t imagine
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It was just on the Today Show. I was just wondering. My checks did seem higher then usual last year too. I asked my coworker yesterday though and she didn’t have to owe anything and she works more then me.
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#23
That's a Zero Taxes Bracket. You may find your refund a little less, however, but if your taxes are zero then at least anything paid I would expect would be returned.
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Just a note. There's a few credits that are tossed into as standard credits to each and every one of us that file. It all comes down to your AIG and the difference of what you paid in. EZ forms are easy for the simple reason that those filing EZ typically aren't reporting extra incomes, businesses, etc etc.
Many of the stories that you will hear have to do with the radical change to the credit on homeownership and a few other areas. Middle Class took a hit for that despite the W4 mentions at the start of last year. Of course it was a huge code change that was difficult to navigate. There were also changes to numbers surrounding Head of Household. I still say use the free resources in front of you with your final December paystub in hand. Or even your W2. Having control over your own paperwork can feel rather liberating. And compared to when I first learned to file, technology has come a long way from needing to hit up the post office for a booklet or two and filing by hand and getting it into the mail. |
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Mountaindewed - I just did my taxes last night. I bet you'll be fine. You don't do anything special right - like no itemizing, no selling stocks, no deducting anything?
When I did mine, here's what I noticed - the standard deduction for a single person used to be about $6000, but now it's $12000. I didn't itemize this year (I have in the past), so that essentially means more of your income is not taxed. (Sorry I can't remember, I think your income might have below $12000? If so, you shouldn't really owe anything and anything that was taken out of your paycheck for taxes should be returned). Anyway, my refund went up from last year because of this. I really think you'll be fine... but if you're still nervous, you could try doing your taxes with one of the online programs. They'll let you go all the way through the end and show you how much you owe, or how much you'll get back, without you having to pay (you only need to pay if you're going to file electronically through the program). The ones that I've used have been fairly easy and walk you through everything. I used "TaxHawk" this year. It looks like it's free for federal anyway, but you might want to just run through it to check your numbers, so you don't feel so stressed, then you can wait for your uncle (I think you said?) to file later if you want him to double check. Here's the link... I used them last year too, so no complaints. (Other than being a customer, I'm not affiliated with them... and in the past I've used other programs, those would work fine too. I can't remember which ones I used though now, I ended up leaving them b/c the price went up.) TaxHawk® Free Tax Software... Federal & State Return Preparation & E-file... Online Taxes |
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^^^if you do choose to go with a free software program such as taxhawk-I use a different one and have kept with them since 2004/2005, I learned yesterday if you go to their site through the IRS-who will give you an extensive list if under 66K or over 66K, but under 66K is free and the IRS expressly states that on their site and expressly states which states are mandated to offer free electronic filing- but if you go through the IRS to these sites-it will attach Free to your filing status.
These sites are great they walk you through it, self explanatory and do a free review with alerts so that your risk of error is slim to none. |
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#27
To add. It does look like more than last year, for me. For me it can get tricky to monitor because of floating one of my sons alternating years with my exh. Last year I filed for 3 since he had zero on the book wages for the first time in his work history. And there's the internal job change back in fall of '17 which was a wage increase=more taxes paid. And this year the DOR is pushing all of my exes refund my way for back pay on child support.
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We did our taxes today and we are getting back just a tiny bit less than last year. It’s because we made a bit more. But we made it up by paying less for HRblock service (she explained why but I honestly wasn’t listening at that point). So we didn’t get effected really. Good news for us as a refund is substantial
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I don’t think you understand how taxes work. If you only made 11k and deduction is 12k you can’t possibly owe anything
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Ok. Well maybe I don’t know how they work. My W2 says I paid $800 in taxes last year. I thought it was like the lottery and if I made $11,000 then about $3,500 would have been taken out for taxes. Not just $800.
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No....even what you are thinking is not how it works. Your W2 indicates how much was withheld from your check to cover taxes you may owe at the end of the year. It is NOT how much you OWE in taxes. As a matter of fact if you only earned $11,000 you probably owe no taxes unless you have some other income you get. Basically when your taxes are calculated for 2018, the government will have to repay you what you overpaid (maybe the whole $800)
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Right... so here's my understanding.
The $12k personal exemption means that, for people who qualify for that (i.e. single, not claimed by someone else) - you do not pay taxes on the first $12k of income you earn in a year. So, if you were to earn $20,000... when you do your taxes, there's actually a step on the form where you'd subtract out the $12,000 exemption. (It's an "exemption" because that part of your income is *exempt* from having to pay taxes, i.e. it's tax-free, and you don't pay anything for that first $12k.) So in that case, you'd earn $20,000. Then you get the exemption, and subtract that out... so $20,000 - $12,000 = $8,000 - that's what you'd owe taxes on. In the old days, you'd have to look at a paper booklet that shows you what the tax rate is for $8000 of income, but now the computer does it. Since you made $11,000, if you were doing it yourself, you'd see that there's a step where you subtract the exemption, so $11,000 - $12,000 (exemption), and get a negative number (-$1000). That means that none of your income is subject to tax. In that case, if you've had any taxes taken out of your paycheck, you should get a refund of all that money. If they took out less money this year than less year, you may get less back, because you will only get back the money that you paid. It's like this... Your employer has to make an educated guess at what you're going to owe in taxes at the end of the year. You can influence this a little when you fill out the form (when you're hired) that talks about how many exemptions, etc, you have. But, your employer makes their best guess, based on your salary and the form you filled out. Then, they take out enough money every month (and send it to the government for you) to pay that tax bill. In a perfect world, that number would be correct - and you wouldn't owe anything more or get a refund. But because the tax law is so crazy, it's almost never going to be spot-on. So, when you actually file your taxes, the government looks at what you owe, based on everything: your income, your exemptions, anything that comes in to play.. and what you've already paid. If you've paid more than you owe, you get a refund! If you didn't pay enough, you have to make up the difference. If you made $11k, and if you qualify for the standard exemption (single, nobody else can claim you as a dependent) - you won't owe anything, b/c your income is less than the exemption. So, anything you've already paid (from your job taking it out of your paycheck) will come back to you. Note: this doesn't include money that your job took for other things, like social security, medicaid, local taxes, etc. Just the federal taxes. It's going to be OK! Really, don't worry... and as I said, if you go to one of the online tools, you can actually fill in all the fields and get a better idea of how it works. The ones I've looked at are all free to put in your info and see the outcome, and because your taxes are pretty simple, they shouldn't take too long. *hugs* |
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Good for you by the way keeping part time job while on disability. It’s commendable. Just stop worrying about taxes |
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#34
Payroll taxes are much different than lottery taxes by far. I can comprehend why that might be in your thoughts.
Payroll taxes are spelled out in brackets. Your payroll coordinator would plug in a code for an estimated yearly amount to gauge how much of a percentage to withhold from your paycheck. With state taxes, it's the same method. I know that my state tax operates on a 5.1% margin with an elective of 5.85% for instance. 800 of 11K is 7.27%. Lottery is around that 35% ratio. |
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There’s a lot more talk on the news. A lot more people are saying they are owing this year. Others are saying they are not. But I did find out today you can create a payment plan. So if someone did owe $10,000 (I’m not saying that I will) they won’t expect you to pay the whole amount back at one time. I thought you had to pay it all back at one time. That makes me feel better.
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People owe when they for example work two jobs, have no dependents and make substantial amount of money |
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So I looked at some past paychecks from 2018, and it looks like on the lower checks I’ve gotten they haven’t been taking any federal taxes out. Zero. I’m pretty sure that’s an issue. I will know if I’ll owe anything in about 5 hours. I’ll keep you guys posted.
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They take NOTHING out of low pay check because you don’t make enough. How can you owe anything if you only make 11k??? I don’t think you understand what everyone is telling you. Many people already explained to you that if you make less than 12k a year you don’t pay any taxes and whatever you paid will be returned to you. It’s becayse you make less than exemption of 12k. People who make less than 12k pay ZERO taxes. Not sure why you keep repeating same thing? It’s like you don’t read people’s posts? |
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I’m sorry. I truly don’t. They were taking a lot of money out for federal taxes and then they just stopped taking it out for the lower taxes in January 2018. My check yesterday didn’t have any federal taxes taken out either. But at one time a lot of money was taken out. This is something recent.
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