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Default Nov 22, 2019 at 10:23 AM
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Everyone should know that it is common practice in the medical system to alter and falsify health records in preparation for lawsuits and or complaints.


Why is this important?


IF it is a mistake they are covering up - they hide the truth. You will never know what happened. If there is any permanent damage to you or a loved one, there is no recourse for financial reparations. If someone dies due to negligence, you will never know it was the fault of the medical professional. If there was an error in treatment, you will never know. Nor will anyone learn from the mistake...

When you can alter and falsify the only evidence that exists, you cannot tell the difference between mistakes and malicious intent...


The medical system is broken. Period.


This is why there is so much abuse in healthcare, and in other industries that afford similar abuse dynamics to those in power.

Giving someone power and no accountability is recipe for disaster.


And yet - affording professionals power and no accountability is exactly what our institutions do!


And our Government - they knowingly ALLOW and even SUPPORT our corrupt healthcare systems / Publically funded Institutions! They see abuse of power (and they know ALL about it) as a necessary evil, so long as it provides them with a system that can be easily exploited to meet their needs at any time.


Anyway, I'm done rambling.


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Default Nov 22, 2019 at 09:04 PM
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That's scary. Both me and my mum had experiences that could've led to lawsuits and one I pressed for led nowhere due to assumably altered records. It's not ok that they can get away with this.
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Default Nov 26, 2019 at 03:11 AM
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Great post. Records are also swayed heavily and then documented based on the opinions of other doctors even when they are wrong.Years ago I had chronic stomach issues and went to the ER like 4 times in a year. A few of those times I was given IV pain medicine. The last time I went I heard the doctor call my GI doctor's group and speak to the on call doctor. He had no idea I could hear him but I heard things like "no, I wont give her pain medication"
"She shouldn't be here"- stuff like that implying that I somehow come to the ER once every three months for... 1 dose of IV pain medicine? I wasnt on pain killers and BTW I NEVER asked for pain medicine I knew something was wrong and they could never figure it out. It was always the same tests and the same lame guess at what the issue was. When that doctor came into see me I let him have it and basically said he had no idea what I was feeling and that he had no business inferring something that I never said or requested. So that was that. The following year I had a flare up of some kind and went back. The doctor in the ER then said the only pain medicine they would give me was pepcid and he was such a jerk. My mom was an icu nurse there and she came down and even said something to the doctor. He met me for 30 seconds and immediately said no pain meds when I wasnt there for that. Do you know why? Because the previous ER doc noted somewhere in my records that he thought I was either drug seeking, faking it, or that it was psychosomatic or some other bogus opinion so that er doc had an opinion of me before even seeing me. It was like being black listed. And guess what? That whole time I had a internal hernia that I had surgery for. My old surgeon did exploratory surgery and fixed it then. So I wasn't crazy- they couldn't figure it out and rather than trying to help me, they labelled me. Do I have proof of this? I do not. My mom basically agreed with me that there are certain notes or cues that are left in your records. This was in 2013 and since then I have had two surgeries at this hospital with my hand surgeon and had no issues and I think that is because they revamped medical record keeping over the last few years and whatever was in there is not longer popping up? I am not sure. But I wont use their ER ever again. So the trauma and bias and assumptions in the heathcare/medical/mental health field are not just about life or death issues or buerocracy or covering you butt stuff- it can actually affect your care in an acute situation.

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Hi everyone,


Everyone should know that it is common practice in the medical system to alter and falsify health records in preparation for lawsuits and or complaints.


Why is this important?


IF it is a mistake they are covering up - they hide the truth. You will never know what happened. If there is any permanent damage to you or a loved one, there is no recourse for financial reparations. If someone dies due to negligence, you will never know it was the fault of the medical professional. If there was an error in treatment, you will never know. Nor will anyone learn from the mistake...

When you can alter and falsify the only evidence that exists, you cannot tell the difference between mistakes and malicious intent...


The medical system is broken. Period.


This is why there is so much abuse in healthcare, and in other industries that afford similar abuse dynamics to those in power.

Giving someone power and no accountability is recipe for disaster.


And yet - affording professionals power and no accountability is exactly what our institutions do!


And our Government - they knowingly ALLOW and even SUPPORT our corrupt healthcare systems / Publically funded Institutions! They see abuse of power (and they know ALL about it) as a necessary evil, so long as it provides them with a system that can be easily exploited to meet their needs at any time.


Anyway, I'm done rambling.


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Default Nov 26, 2019 at 07:20 AM
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After the dreaded "S," which stands for seeker, the surest way to receive horrible healthcare in America today is to have any DSM 5 diagnosis in your chart.

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Default Nov 26, 2019 at 03:54 PM
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I am medical advocate for my ex. Since I have been doing that, I have seen a lot of inexcusable behavior by doctors(including surgeons), nurse practitioners manning Urgent care facilities with no doctor there AT ALL as backup,emergency room doctors and front desk people. There are some completely professional doctors here, but it is dangerous seeking care for anyone who doesn’t keep their eyes open, ask questions, research everything on the Internet, and speak out firmly, even loudly if necessary . Some of the bad behavior seems silly or just wasting people’s time, some of it is doctors advocating unnecessary expensive procedures, and some of it is life threatening. SPEAK OUT OR IT COULD COST YOU YOUR LIFE. If you feel unsure, take a friend with you to ask questions.
These doctors are not Marcus Welby (trusted, all knowing TV doctor from the 50s)—they are rushed, squeezed by the demands of insurance providers. With a significant medical problem, you may have multiple specialists, and they rarely communicate with each other unless you make sure that happens.
I completely believe what bpcyclist is saying. Kudos to you,bp!!!!People dont know these things.

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Exclamation Nov 29, 2019 at 07:09 AM
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Well, all Pfrog has to say about all this is:

EFF THE AMERICAN MEDICAL & PHARMACEUTICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX!

This is based on my own personal (and permanently damaging) experiences at the hands of both of these corrupt and broken systems!

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Default Nov 29, 2019 at 05:00 PM
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The thing is--they could easily solve some of the endemic issues through disclosure of what procedure they are going to do--but the healthcare system is so corrupt. ERs are notoriously terrible.

The amount of bureaucratic B.S. is absurd. They don't even give you an itemized bill. They can't even do the most simple things.

If a doctor had a disclosure statement like--uh--how much something is going to cost, wouldn't that be a good thing? But, no, they cannot even tell you that most of the time given a certain procedure.


This absolutely needs to change! I am with you.

It causes me anger because my father is currently disputing with a hospital based on a ER visit during which they gave my brother an IV for lack of fluids and they're trying to charge $10,000 USD for it. That is absolutely ludicrous.

I get that doctors have to do things quickly and maybe a disclosure statement wouldn't be possible in certain life or death situations, think of somebody who has just suffered a traumatic injury for example; however, the irony is that the way the U.S. medical system works, almost everyone has to wait a ton of time to be attended to anyway. Especially for mental health diagnoses. And that is truly one of the most messed up things about the U.S. medical system. The way everything has been privatized is simply disgusting, in my opinion.

It's like, if you privatize an ambulance service, for example--and this has actually happened--it causes so many problems! It's almost like for-profit prisons, eh? Sound familiar?

Ugh. I don't know if there will be a solution anytime soon. I just feel like knowing your stuff is good. But obviously this doesn't work in all situations. And being firm is really good, too.
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Default Nov 30, 2019 at 05:28 AM
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I worked in this system for twenty years. Unfortunately, the drug and device makers and the insurance industry have some of the most powerful, if not the most powerful, lobbies in DC. This problem will never be solved unless the national mood shifts and we go to a single payer system. But I personally do not think it will ever change. Do you know how many insurance/drug/device maker sales people and managers earn either mid-6- or 7-figure incomes? I don't, but I do know it is a big number. Those people have too much to lose. Houses, cars, spouses, private schools for their kids, trips to Hawaii, on and on.

Our healthcare system is broken. We need to fix it.

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Default Nov 30, 2019 at 03:38 PM
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Considering the 3rd leading cause of death in the USA and Canada is Medical Error - I would say that our system is in dire need of change. While the Government benefits from maintaining their broken system in order to avoid short-term responsibility, they have effectively set a precident for mass scandals; which as we all know, is an unfortunate byproduct of toxic workplace cultures rife with abuse, corruption and absolutely zero accountability. Large Corporations and Institutions (particularly unions, Government funded organizations), wind up with a toxic workplace culture, especially when the workplace is deemed a, "High Risk Environment." One could say that Healthcare is risky business. If you consider the 3rd leading cause of death, you can see why things aren't improving... If you harm someone, you risk losing your job, being charged, being subject to ridicule as a result of a loss of professional appearance, and or being sued. But don't you worry - that system is in place which takes care of all your mistakes, your abuses. Not only can you alter and falsify the only evidence that exists, you can also rest in knowing that your colleagues will protect you. Why? Well - this is complex and multifaceted, some of these may play a role:


A.) They are guilty of similar attrocities and feel compelled to protect you in exchange for the same.

B.) They agree to stay silent in exchange for...

C.) They are new to the industry and naive; unaware of such corruption and how normalized it is.

D.) They know it happened, but they will protect the perpetrator just because they like to see vulnerable people suffer.
E.) FEAR keeps them silent - culture of fear and intimidation.

The healghcare system thinks it is vital that they also come to realize their UTTER @%!/!¥$ FAILURE to live up to their morals and ethics.

When you have a system that can be utilized for covering up mistakes, you in effect lay the foundation for covering up malicious intent. And considering most cases of abuse take place behind closed doors, 1 on 1 and off the record, it is even more disturbing to know that the person in power also owns and authors the only evidence that exists: the health records.

These are altered and falsified ALL the time in preparation for lawsuits and complaints.

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