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Default Aug 22, 2020 at 11:48 AM
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I was once on a bus ages ago in a different world entirely, I left work early because I was sick, I think I had fever or something, I know I was sick enough to go home early and was breathing heavily as to not throw up. I sat on a bus and I was yelled at by a woman who believed I had to get up and give her a seat, she actually smacked my shoulder for me to get up. People don’t really know why someone is sitting.

You should have puked on her feet.

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I was just positing the use of the word "entitled" so as to no longer malign persons named Karen.

If you are living in a world where everyone is kind, you are blessed.
I get what you meant. I just got caught up on the image of “entitled” people sitting on the subway not getting up
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Default Aug 22, 2020 at 11:47 PM
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As I mentioned before, I don't like the term 'Karen' and now on the internet especially, anyone who has a differing opinion to you or voices something in favor of a worthy cause can get labelled as a 'Karen'. So, it's morphing away from it's original thing into something more general. Everyone's becoming a 'Karen'. 🤔
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Default Aug 23, 2020 at 08:44 AM
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I hate it. I think it's stupid. People are so SMALL MINDED these days as it IS......anyone named Karen is now going to be bullied or at the very least snickered at for it. Can you imagine a child in school what they are going to go through? Pure idiocy.

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Default Aug 23, 2020 at 12:16 PM
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Think it rates equally with dumb blond jokes. Guess I am like a duck where water just rolls off my feathers. I just don't waste my time letting things bother me that people come up with one day & gone tomorrow. The more people make of crap like this, the more some people use it just to be irritating. Do I like it????...NO. but there are a lot of things in this world I don't like & don't agree with but that isn't going to make them go away

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Default Aug 24, 2020 at 07:28 AM
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This was actually a topic in a recent Social Q's section of the New York Times.

I agree that it's unfair to use a name to describe what some people regard as a bad trait. Just like this is unfair, Chatty Cathy is similar, even though my Aunt Cathy is a chatterbox I can be, too, especially when hypo/manic, and my name isn't Cathy.

I certainly can see how some people are overly critical and complain too much, but it is not fair to label everyone who expresses a grievance as "bad". As a customer, we should sometimes speak up when service/product is bad, but within reason and in a helpful, but not aggressive, way.
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Default Aug 24, 2020 at 08:23 AM
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It's funny, what was pretty much just a meme on reddit, has transformed into everyday culture.
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Default Aug 24, 2020 at 08:58 AM
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It's a new slur, like any other slur. It's not as serious as some other slurs are, but it comes with all the same baggage of a slur. The affect of specific slurs vary as human culture varies, but they are always damaging.

I think the thing with the Karen slur was that it was meant to be a way of fighting back against other damaging behavior, managing offensive behavior with offensive behavior in kind. But that in and of itself is bad, because it doesn't solve anything. Humans tend to fight back if attacked, so you can very quickly and easily creates a perpetual cycle of hate.

If someone throws a rock at you, you are likely to throw one back, so are they - rinse repeat, you dumb**s smooth-skin monkeys just started a war. Humans in a nutshell.

And it's not like we don't have the knowledge and intelligence needed to overcome behavior like this. We understand this hate-hate cycle well, we understand human behavior and psychology better than we ever have before, and yet, still, we never break the cycle. We just re-frame it.
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Default Aug 29, 2020 at 02:26 AM
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My moms name is karen i called her by her first name until i was 25 now 36.

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Default Aug 31, 2020 at 09:30 AM
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I think it's mild compared to what marginalized people go through. It was created as a way to address entitled, unevolved, and rude older white women.

It's not as bad as what Native women go through, or the police brutality against Black people.
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Default Aug 31, 2020 at 09:37 PM
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It's certainly offensive to people really named Karen and should be stopped.
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Default Sep 02, 2020 at 02:13 AM
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I don’t like it.

It’s misogynistic, racist and ageist. A pathetic and cruel attempt to silence (generally) white middle aged women. Just fade into the background and put up and shut up.

In an increasingly politically correct society that encourages people to “be kind”, non judgmental and accept difference, this targeting of one group of people is grossly hypocritical. Aggressively demanding to see the manager, sticking your nose into other peoples business etc are unpleasant behaviours that exist in every demographic, not just older women.

I know, like most of these things, it was probably initially a joke but it quickly developed into something nastier. And it’s acceptable because older women are unpopular.

Oh, and I also don’t like the term “snowflake” to describe people under 30 who disagree with or are offended by something. We all have likes, dislikes and opinions and should have an equal platform to discuss these issues.
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I don’t like it.

It’s misogynistic, racist and ageist. A pathetic and cruel attempt to silence (generally) white middle aged women. Just fade into the background and put up and shut up.

In an increasingly politically correct society that encourages people to “be kind”, non judgmental and accept difference, this targeting of one group of people is grossly hypocritical. Aggressively demanding to see the manager, sticking your nose into other peoples business etc are unpleasant behaviours that exist in every demographic, not just older women.

I know, like most of these things, it was probably initially a joke but it quickly developed into something nastier. And it’s acceptable because older women are unpopular.

Oh, and I also don’t like the term “snowflake” to describe people under 30 who disagree with or are offended by something. We all have likes, dislikes and opinions and should have an equal platform to discuss these issues.
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Default Sep 10, 2020 at 09:43 PM
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I hope the 'Karen' phenomenon burns out quickly. Butter Toast and Apollite made some excellent points, and wrote them much better than I could have done.

On one hand, it strikes me as sexist. It's an attack on women speaking up for themselves when they feel wronged. But on the other hand, some people really do go too far in their protests, and behave badly, and lose their credibility in doing so, and they do make laughing stocks out of themselves. They have no one to blame but themselves for being turned into memes.

Mixed feelings. I think it boils down to how you conduct yourself when you feel a wrong has been done.
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These people may have an invisible illness. Social anxiety or autism or some other type where they need the seat just as much as the wheelchair user. I’m not trying to be rude or anything these situations just annoy me sometimes
I understand what you mean but a wheelchair user deserves a seat more than someone like you mentioned IMO.

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Default Sep 19, 2020 at 01:18 AM
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I guess If I have encountered an individual described as so.. If approached just call her out and tell her to get the F away from me. . If I was working somewhere and encountered someone like this... well working with the public is a gamble.. but I always kept my cool ... yes maam. The fact we have come to the point that we name these things people want to label is part of the problem of the larger issues why society behaves as it does....
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Default Sep 27, 2020 at 01:40 AM
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Another thing that irks me about it is that there are many words n the English language that could be used to describe a person like that. Do they not KNOW then?

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