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Not sure what the doctor said but I ran across this the other day..

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004J8HVV0...ng=UTF8&btkr=1

Basically it is a book that says Fiber actually makes constipation worse. In my experience that is true. I have never had fiber do anything to help me go.
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Not sure what the doctor said but I ran across this the other day..

Fiber Menace - Kindle edition by Konstantin Monastyrsky. Health, Fitness & Dieting Kindle eBooks @ Amazon.com.

Basically it is a book that says Fiber actually makes constipation worse. In my experience that is true. I have never had fiber do anything to help me go.
Wow! Thanks for this info! I totally have experienced constipation from eating too much fiber. So I HATE it when my G.I. or Family Physician suggests I add Metamucil or add more fiber to my diet. No thanks.

It makes zero sense. Fiber just bulks up the poop and it gets stuck and dried out, so no way will I add more fiber to my diet.
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Wow! Thanks for this info! I totally have experienced constipation from eating too much fiber. So I HATE it when my G.I. or Family Physician suggests I add Metamucil or add more fiber to my diet. No thanks. It makes zero sense. Fiber just bulks up the poop and it gets stuck and dried out, so no way will I add more fiber to my diet.
Yes. When I was a kid and had these issues they constantly told me to do such things and it NEVER WORKED.

Now I know it probably was making me worse.

I have always wondered what the point of fiber was and didn't really believe the supposed benefits. But then to learn that animals have very different physical digestive systems to us (more made for fiber consumption) and there is the the nail in the coffin.

I have long felt there is a bias / conspiracy in medical advice to favor a plant based diet and so those people feel encouraging people to get more fiber will do that.
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Do you have to constantly eat prunes? How does one get ahead of their constipation? If you're a woman, your hormones mess up your digestion before, during and after your period. I tend to get constipated right after my period and it sucks. Also, my hypothyroid disease causes constipation so I really need to probably take something OTC against my will, to keep it all soft in my colon. So frustrating. I just don't know what to do!!
No, I don't eat prunes constantly.

I don't deal with constant constipation. I think it is, because I drink a lot of very watered down fruit juice and eat a good amount of vegetables and fruit everyday. If I don't eat any for a day I get backed up. Walking helps things move as well. I find if I work at a desk for a few days straight it is harder to move my bowels.

My period can back me up, but it is usually when I don't drink enough. I tend to get very hungry and thirsty during my period, so it is rarely an issue.

Taking laxatives everyday is going to mess with your colon.

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I think I will ask the GI dr. tomorrow about taking stool softeners. Because, if its all hard and stuck in there, I don't see how taking an osmotic laxative that will bulk up and make larger what's already hard inside my colon, easier for me to pass. This is why my anxiety is so high. There's just no right way to get rid of constipation b/c it depends on what's stuck inside -- how hard it is etc. -- and the best way to get it out.


Taking an osmotic laxative can be brutal. If you have bits blocking you up, the cramping will be intense. That would be my last resort. What about a rectal enema? They can cause some 'local' cramping and temporary **** burning, but they work. Once all the fluid in your rectum has been expelled the cramping stops. Personally I would try diet first, and no I am not referring to Metamucil.
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Emily you've just scratched the surface of just how much the medical community has it in for their fellow humans. Fiber doesn't help matters...at all. It makes them worse. Why don't more people believe this?

We're all just guinea pigs and dollar signs to most doctors. I am friends with a doctor, and even she bullies me to follow the common (bad) medical advice of:

eat more fiber
use a daily fiber supplement
drink 3 liters of water a day
follow the FODmap diet (for IBS, Crohn's, etc.)

Ever since I was little, I've had constipation, now made worse by my thyroid disease over the years. Well, what if I also just have a slow transit time? That can contribute to constipation.

An entire industry has been built around the concept of Fiber as a cure-all to constipation and digestive problems. My G.I. dr. is adamant that I get a colonscopy AND endoscopy at the same time to uncover the reasons for my constipation. I don't want to get those procedures done because they can cause tears, cause inflammation, cause bleeding, cause infections in the colon's pouches that leads to diverticulitis. So, no thanks.

I am going to read that book Fiber Menace. Humans' digestive systems weren't designed to break down fiber, you're correct. So it's counterproductive when doctors tell us to eat more foods that our digestive systems can't even break down, even if we take OTC enzymes to help with the digestion. Such a nightmare.
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Emily you've just scratched the surface of just how much the medical community has it in for their fellow humans. Fiber doesn't help matters...at all. It makes them worse. Why don't more people believe this?
The more I read the more terrified I become. I feel like I have taken on a second job just trying to glean the reality of what is actually good for you. I am actually grateful for the internet because at least you now have an option to check out anything.

But I am glad I found that book. My "gut" was always telling me that fiber didn't do anything for me but I didn't listen because of the "experts" telling me otherwise. Now I know.
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Wow Didgee you are lucky that you don't suffer from chronic constipation. I will add some walking every day to my routine when I get home. I did read that one should walk after every meal, but that kind of seems unrealistic based on our busy modern day schedules.

I definitely think period poop can be runny, constipated, or in-between before, during or after the period depending on the woman and how her hormonal changes effect her digestive system. At least I know I get backed up AFTER my period so now I will use this next week before my period, to eat less fiber and drink more water and juice to keep it from getting too dry and hard.

I will have to find a place that is medically trained/licensed to give enemas. Supposedly, those can be dangerous to do. Thanks for that info.

Yeah, I am staying away from laxatives and fiber supplements. No way in hell. I have decided to research "low fiber" diet and will just eat that stuff. Forget fiber. Fiber is my digestive system's enemy.

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No, I don't eat prunes constantly.

I don't deal with constant constipation. I think it is, because I drink a lot of very watered down fruit juice and eat a good amount of vegetables and fruit everyday. If I don't eat any for a day I get backed up. Walking helps things move as well. I find if I work at a desk for a few days straight it is harder to move my bowels.

My period can back me up, but it is usually when I don't drink enough. I tend to get very hungry and thirsty during my period, so it is rarely an issue.

Taking laxatives everyday is going to mess with your colon.



Taking an osmotic laxative can be brutal. If you have bits blocking you up, the cramping will be intense. That would be my last resort. What about a rectal enema? They can cause some 'local' cramping and temporary **** burning, but they work. Once all the fluid in your rectum has been expelled the cramping stops. Personally I would try diet first, and no I am not referring to Metamucil.
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Emily, I'm with you that I always had an intuitive sense even as a little kid, that all this "fiber" people and doctors told me to eat, was actually doing me more harm than good. And still today, doctors knowingly miseducate their patients b/c the research that fiber is BAD and TOXIC is in every medical journal that exists.

I LOVE reading medical journal studies and articles and reports from doctors who aren't afraid to call out their colleagues as liars. And they are liars, doctors who give out bad advice without even considering their patient's health and well-being.

We have to advocate for ourselves no matter what, especially with doctors.

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The more I read the more terrified I become. I feel like I have taken on a second job just trying to glean the reality of what is actually good for you. I am actually grateful for the internet because at least you now have an option to check out anything.

But I am glad I found that book. My "gut" was always telling me that fiber didn't do anything for me but I didn't listen because of the "experts" telling me otherwise. Now I know.
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Oh my, all this fiber talk is making me want to run to bathroom. Fiber is a binder for sure, but not in the same way rice is. Fiber will allow for one healthy poo after another, while your body does the work. Water weighs down your movement, and when you're ready, one quick clean movement is the goal. Of course, if all you eat is fiber (you'd be surprised how many foods contain fiber), you may never be able to move. The best way to utilize fiber is by adding it to a healthy and consistent diet of proteins, starches, fruits and vegetables
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I LOVE reading medical journal studies and articles and reports from doctors who aren't afraid to call out their colleagues as liars. And they are liars, doctors who give out bad advice without even considering their patient's health and well-being.
Me too. Thank god for the internet. I shutter when I think how on my own I was prior to the internet. Now I can go directly to studies and research the issue on my own.
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