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Default Sep 14, 2019 at 05:22 AM
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Lately in the UK there has been a considerable number of news articles questioning if vaping is a healthier option to smoking.

Since I resigned the NHS' healthcare sector, I don't have access to this information as to whether it is carcinogenic. But one of our national newspapers, The Guardian, reported vaping deaths in the USA.

The Guardian September 13th, 2019
Vaping deaths in the US: what do you need to know? | Society | The Guardian

BBC News today: US & Canada:
Vaping deaths: 'A new generation of nicotine addicts' - BBC News

I used to smoke and when stressed out as a hospital doctor in A&E, used nicotine lozenges to help me get through a punishing 12, maybe 16 hour shift. A great many of my colleagues either used these lozenges or wore a transdernal skin patch. But as the cost of a packet of smokes increased due to government taxation, thousands of people turned to vaping including myself.

Nowadays vaping devices are leakproof and far better designed, but the UK makes vaping unlawful to purchase vaping equipment if you are under 18. Still, youngsters seem to get around this and I don't know how. Maybe their parents vape, so they'll grab the odd e-cig to take to school?

About 6 months ago I decided to stop smoking, but doing so was very difficult. Instead, I bought a vaping kit and began using nicotine liquid of a higher strength, gradually reducing down to 0% Nicotine 'juice'. Joyfully though I still enjoy vaping, I am close to ceasing it altogether. Even when enjoying a black coffee I still have no desire to vape, let alone smoke. Since six months ago, I have saved a lot of money. Enough to take my 11 year old daughter and I either on a cruise or visit France for a fortnight. I reckon I saved about 90% otherwise spent buying cigs. I breathe far better, I don't cough anymore, and my clothes don't smell. Vape mist literally mists away into the air and leaves no residual marks.

Those who remain vaping, I say good luck to you. Enjoy your vaping, but be aware there could be concrete evidence out there that suggests vaping can cause serious lung damage. I am surprised that there is little information in my country on vaping, except useful info given out by our NHS:

E-cigarettes | Smokefree

Using e-cigarettes to stop smoking - NHS

NHS info: 2018: Study reports that e-cigarettes may make lungs vulnerable to infection - NHS

On a lighter note some two years ago, there was a short video on You Tube enlightening viewers on E-Cigarettes' safety: the facts explained.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSn5ZZQkzKs

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Default Sep 14, 2019 at 05:54 AM
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They are freaking out in the USA as well. My understanding is the black market vapes are causing the trouble- you know the ones that make it look like you are smoking meth. And from what I read it seems like the marajuana ones are the culprits as well. I cant help but get all conspiracy theorist about it and wonder- who benefits from bad vape press? The tobacco companies.

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Default Sep 15, 2019 at 12:40 AM
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My stepson 29 years old and vapes like a freaking train is having breathing problems , shortness of breath and coughing, he’s a flight attendant so that’s not helping matters.

I fear we will one day get a call that he’s in the hospital.

I think there needs to be more regulations on what is in the liquids.

I do hate that kids are getting hooked because it’s “ cool” most of those kids would probably never smoke a cigarette but are tempted by cupcake, blueberry, Mountain Dew flavor etc liquids.

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Default Sep 15, 2019 at 05:30 AM
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Thank you @sarahsweets and @~Christina for your posts.
@~Christina I am sorry your 29 year old stepon is so into vaping that I strongly advise him to seek medical advice in case he already has a breathing problem: such as asthma, or if his doctor knows of any other medical conditions that could be exacerbated by his excessive vaping.

However, today on BBC News, A ban on the sale of flavoured e-cigarettes has been announced by US President Donald Trump, after a number of vaping-related deaths.

Back to the UK.
UK scientists found the vapour could lead to changes in the lung's immune cells. See BBC News:
E-cigarettes: How safe are they?

E-cigarettes: How safe are they? - BBC News

In the UK, warnings and precautions about using e-liquids containing nicotine have already been published and enclosed in all nictonie-based e-liquids on sale:

* People should not vape if they are a non-smoker.

* Young people under the age of 18 years.

* Pregnant or breast-feeding women, as nicotine is known to cross the placenta and be excreted into breast milk.

* Those experiencing general ill-health, such as heart disease, stomach and duodenal ulcers, liver or kidney problems, long term throat disease or difficulty breathing due to bronchitis, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), emphysema or asthma.
* Those who have an overactive thyroid gland or have a pheochromocytoma (which is a tumour of the adrenal gland that can affect high blood pressure).
* Those who have diabetes, because may affect their blood sugar levels.
* Those who are taking the following medicines:
* Theophylline (to treat breathing problems such as COPD
* Ropinirole (to treat restless leg syndrome)
* Clozapine, sold under the brand name Clozaril among others (to treat schizophrenia)

There are two methods of vaping.

1. Inhaling from the mouthpiece straight to one's lungs.
2. Inhaling to mouth and then to lungs.

I wonder if No. 1 is more likely to produce medical problems because the vapour only partly mixes with air when the vaping unitis used. Vapour would be more highly concentrated, therefore likely to cause ill heath when excessively used. As to whether e-liquids' fruit flavours are synthesized from pure fruit extracts, or, are these flavours EU Approved additives and E numbers, I don't know. In the UK there are an astounding 1,400 e-liquid flavours to choose from. VapeUK state all 10ml e-liquids are 'TPD compliant', or Tobacco Products Directive Compliant. Maybe this is why the UK seems to have a lower ill health rate from vaping, unless vapers are actively use their devices more than average. But maybe the US tobacco companies have a vested interest in producing tobacco-flavoured e-liquid, I don't know.

What I do know is I ceased smoking by occasional use of vaping, and no longer have need of vaping.

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Default Sep 20, 2019 at 09:58 AM
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vaping is getting bad press. there are and have been articles out already about "popcorn lung" a complication of using vaping liquids, and other health consequences regarding vaping products. i know nothing of the marijuana or cbd ones so cant touch those. but it seems to me the health implications are coming out hard and fast on vaping here in the USA as compared to combustible cigarettes. I smoke, i will never vape, those things scare the christ out of me. If you look at packaging and take the initiative to google single ingredients, or look up components of the product you know what you are in for.

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Default Sep 21, 2019 at 05:14 AM
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Inhaling any kind of smoke into one's lungs is unhealthy. I think we all know that.

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Default Sep 24, 2019 at 01:51 AM
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Inhaling any kind of smoke into one's lungs is unhealthy. I think we all know that.

Except vaping (which is vapour 'aka' steam) is definitely not smoke in any form.
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What I find "funny" is that they claim vaping has killed 6 people and they are already talking about bans. Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including more than 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure. *that's from the CDC* Yet they aren't banning it. Can someone please explain that "logic" to me??

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What I find "funny" is that they claim vaping has killed 6 people and they are already talking about bans. Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including more than 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure. *that's from the CDC* Yet they aren't banning it. Can someone please explain that "logic" to me??

Sorry, I have no idea. *shrugs* Below though is an interesting article in The Guardian

British vapers are safe, claim health experts after deaths in US | Society | The Guardian

However, I am puzzled as to why e-cigarette makers suddenly want to be regulated.
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