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Feb 25, 2015 at 07:15 AM
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Trigger, I cannot find the new trigger icon, sorry. Very sad, depressing story.
There is a gofundme for the funeral for a toddler. I was unable to read the whole thing because it made me sick to my stomach. Sometime between 10:00 pm and 4:00 a 4 year old and her younger sister went outside to play as their parents slept. The 4 year old was unable to convince the toddler (two I believe) to come back in the house. The mother found the baby frozen the next morning. My daughter is a young mother. She specializes in child psychology and she was disgusted by the story. How did the parents not hear the child crying; so many questions. BUT… The day after I gave birth to my twins, my husband woke up before 6 am to find our precousious 2 ˝ year old gone (the very same young mother). Luckily he was able to find her. We lived in a bad place, the gangs were moving in at a rapid rate and the once sleepy town just didn’t know how to deal with it, law enforcement included. My children were not permitted to even go outside to play in our fenced in back yard unless there was an adult right on top of them. Then I realized that even an adult cannot protect you from a stray bullet in drive by then my children were not permitted outside at all and we moved back to our home town. We did not realize that a 2 year old knew how to unlock the handle lock let alone the dead bolt. So we installed a safety chain. As my husband was putting up the chain I mentioned that it needed to be higher. Our daughter said “yeah, I can stand on the table and reach that.” She was two. So my husband put the safety chain almost to the top of the door and said to her “let’s see you reach that.” She responded “fine! I’ll just go out the patio door.” Did I mention that she was two? Her son is 11 months old. He is beautiful, charming, too clever and freakishly strong. Yesterday he picked up a six pack of 20 oz bottles of Mountain Dew out of the pantry and was carrying, yes I said carrying it, around. He watches and mimics. He’s been trying very hard to figure out how to open her patio door for the last month. He’s about a half inch too short right now. I was just saying to my husband a week ago that he’ll be able to open it before he’s a year old, then what are we going to do? He already knows how to pull the safety slider pole out. So how do you child proof a sliding door? Is there some form of after market alarm that can be installed? I know my brother has to have them on his doors because of the pool in his back yard, but the house was built with them. I know I’m a worrier, but why hasn’t this been an issue on a greater scale? __________________ I've been married for 24 years and have four wonderful children. |
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Feb 25, 2015 at 12:32 PM
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One of my sliding glass doors has a lock and key (but from the outside). Our front door requires a key to lock the bolt from the inside at night (so a key required for the bolt from both sides). I'd call a locksmith and see if there was something they could install, maybe a locking bar like a lojack for a car instead of just an easy up/down one?
My niece channeled Houdini at that age, my sister would use the halter for her in her high chair but she'd be out of it when my sister would turn around and climbing the wall behind the high chair. |
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Feb 25, 2015 at 01:57 PM
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There are many different door alarms based on motion, opening a lock, opening the door and so on. There are alarms that can even outsmart kids. Just need to look what the right alarm is for that door and that kid. Also if choosing an alarm instead of a lock, make sure it can be heard loudly where the parents sleep.
I wouldn't say it is bad parenting if a kid sneaks out. Children are often smart enough to get out but not smart enough to understand consequences. I'm surprised more kids don't go out like that, but when I was a kid I always slept through the night so it didn't occur to me you can do that. A kid I knew was just 1.5 when he got out and wandered a mile! He was safe but anything could have happened. Back then there were no fancy things so they had to put a padlock on the door but they said they felt unsafe with that like if there was a fire and smoke how could they find the lock? It's good to understand that aspect of safety. Not all people do that. With kids there are always ways they can get in trouble, things one never dreamed of. |
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Feb 25, 2015 at 07:36 PM
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We don't have children yet but I am pregnant, we have deadbolts at the top of ALL our doors - sliding or normal ones.
I never really thought to be concerned about the possibility of a child getting out, they're more of a necessity to prevent people getting in!! But thank you for bringing this to my attention! __________________ Sometimes life's so much cooler when you just don't know any better and all the painful lessons have not hammered your head open yet.  Anthony Kiedis
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Feb 25, 2015 at 08:06 PM
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Feb 25, 2015 at 11:06 PM
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You can buy alarms that are like the alarms for home alarms that go off when the door is opened. Like one used for windows. You can get them at the hardware store. They can be turned on and off so if they wanted them off at a point people were going in and out, they wouldn't be getting the alarm all the time and then turn it back on when they want it secure. I was an escape artist as a kid. My aunt sleep walked so they had to put extra locks on the door as one night she slept walked all the way to a friend's house. There is a history of sleep walking in the family.
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Feb 27, 2015 at 10:08 PM
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Perna - I was just wondering if they still made harnesses for kids! It's safer to feed my grandson sitting on the floor.
As for my grandson, I sleep in the living room while I'm there. I'm there Monday through Friday at least, so he'd have to get through me and I'm a very light sleeper. But I will have to google one of those other bars. My daughter lives in a rental, so I'm thinking an alarm might be more rental friendly. As I heard this story, and reflected on the things my own children did, I too am amazed that there aren't more stories than this. Even older children 5+ cannot understand the consequences of their actions. I just to tell my own kids that I'm not saying no to be mean, and explain why. Children are very clever creatures. They forced a design change on the cribs in the US because children were getting their fingers smashed (although I personally have never known this to happen) but something as common as a sliding door has survived? Squaw - I'm somewhat ruling out the spring loaded thing, because I can see my grandson climbing up to use that as a hanging toy and I see more accidents that way. __________________ I've been married for 24 years and have four wonderful children. |
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Feb 27, 2015 at 10:40 PM
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AAAAA..I couldn't imagine a child being able to climb up in any fashion, on a sliding glass patio door, but I hope they can't anyway..The kind of rod I'm referring to would be used at a height of at least 6 feet high, with a spring that has to be opened by an adult..just a thought anyway. Good luck..!
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